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  • 09-30-2018, 03:15 PM
    M.C.757
    What morph is this? (Rat snake)
    Hi all!

    I bought my first rat snake maybe 3-4 months ago when he was about 7 months old, so he’s just a baby still.

    He eats well, loves his terrarium, all is well. I just have no idea what morph he is!

    Here are some pictures, if anyone can help me figure it out, that would be great.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a092740226.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c438418538.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...54ed73ded0.jpg


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  • 09-30-2018, 03:34 PM
    Bogertophis
    That appears to be a normal Baird's rat snake. I used to keep a family of them for many years...some have yellow between the scales as yours does, & some
    have orange (as most of mine did) between the scales. They are ALL wonderful pets, IMO...they tend to be very docile & easily handled. Mine lived as long as
    26 years, & the largest (males) ended up being 6-7' in length. Thanks for sharing your photos, makes me miss the ones I had (but I still keep a number of other
    wonderful rat snakes too). Incidentally, they love branches in their cage.

    Unless something has changed in recent years, they are not considered to be "morphs"- there is & always has been a lot of variation that occurs naturally
    in Baird's rat snakes: some can be dark gray in color too, as opposed to lighter shades, & some have quite a lot of yellow & orange between their scales,
    while others have very little.
  • 09-30-2018, 06:01 PM
    M.C.757
    Re: What morph is this? (Rat snake)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    That appears to be a normal Baird's rat snake. I used to keep a family of them for many years...some have yellow between the scales as yours does, & some
    have orange (as most of mine did) between the scales. They are ALL wonderful pets, IMO...they tend to be very docile & easily handled. Mine lived as long as
    26 years, & the largest (males) ended up being 6-7' in length. Thanks for sharing your photos, makes me miss the ones I had (but I still keep a number of other
    wonderful rat snakes too). Incidentally, they love branches in their cage.

    Unless something has changed in recent years, they are not considered to be "morphs"- there is & always has been a lot of variation that occurs naturally
    in Baird's rat snakes: some can be dark gray in color too, as opposed to lighter shades, & some have quite a lot of yellow & orange between their scales,
    while others have very little.

    Thank you so much for the help!

    Do you think he’s going to change colors has he gets older?


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  • 09-30-2018, 06:29 PM
    Bogertophis
    Pantherophis bairdi (formerly Elaphe bairdi) usually get more colorful as they age, but it's very gradual...wonderful pets!
  • 09-30-2018, 06:42 PM
    Bogertophis
    Some variations: (mine were mostly like this first photo- all borrowed from www.sunshineserpents.com by the way)
    http://www.sunshineserpents.com/imag..._male2_web.JPG

    http://www.sunshineserpents.com/imag...emale2_web.JPG


    But the hatchlings start off like this: http://www.sunshineserpents.com/imag...e_juv2_web.JPG
    They gradually add color between the scales as they mature...very unique-looking snakes & under-appreciated, like my other favorite from the same area
    of Texas & Mexico, the Trans Pecos rat snakes (Bogertophis subocularis).
  • 10-01-2018, 12:03 PM
    Bogertophis
    Well I guess they have albino Baird's now too, but I really love the normal ones anyway...they remind me of a pointilist painting, with their dots of yellows
    & oranges between their scales, and watching them evolve from when they're hatchlings* is really cool. (*most of our other native rat snakes, like corn snakes
    & Pantherophis obsoleta group change patterns too, btw) And there's nothing wrong with that "silvery" look either, one of mine was like the 2nd one above.

    http://thereptilereport.com/assets/r...uty-Always.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/imag...CxxjErly5IR//ZWith the albinos, you mostly just get a plain yellow snake...I prefer the normal ones- what nature did...they rock!
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