Second clutch is out!...with maybe a surprise?

Hello all!

Based off my last post, some of you know this is my first season breeding after a long patient 9 year wait. Well now the second clutch is fully out a couple days after my first! This pairing was a female spider (Charlotte) I picked up at a show and a male Lesser Pastel bought from East Bay Vivarium (present for Elizabeth).

When I went to cut the eggs, I knew I had 2 Pastels and from what I could tell a Lesser Bee and a Bumblebee. Now that they are all out, I'm not sure exactly what's going on. Even though I've been staring at photos of the crazy different morphs for almost 10 years, trying to guess what you have is tough when you see something unexpected. What I thought was the Bumblebee is crazy clean with reduced pattern. I then started looking at more pictures and I then I started thinking about the spider I bought. When I first bought her, people thought there was something else other than spider in her when I showed her off, but I go by what got sold to me, which was a high white Spider. Now that I'm curious, I took her out and noticed she has a yellow belly.....could she be a yellow belly spider? Could the bumblebee actually be a Pastel Spider Yellow belly? Looking at the Lesser bee, can that have yellow belly in it as well (Thought maybe queen bee at one point, but the head has a decent amount of pattern)?

Looking to the experts here to help me out. Until proven, I'm moving forward that they are just nice, clean versions of a Lesser bee and Bumblebee.

Here's several photos of the "bumblebee" in different lighting:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103144.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103204.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_104543.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_104527.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103409.jpg


Here's the Lesser Bee who didn't want to stretch out for me:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103343.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103336.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103404.jpg

And both together:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103552.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_103517.jpg


And the Spider mother:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_104342.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...926_104403.jpg


Thank you for your thoughts!

Eeyyy my spider females name is charlotte.

Beautiful babies though oh my goodness. [emoji7]

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Originally Posted by Potatoren

Eeyyy my spider females name is charlotte.

Beautiful babies though oh my goodness. [emoji7]

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Haha! I'm glad we both know the reference ;)

I don’t know morphs well at all, but all of your little ones are stunning. Congratulations on a beautiful success.

Have they shed yet? Might be a little easier to tell then.

I definitely think it's possible the mom has YB but obviously hard to know for sure. Maybe those with a more well-trained eye will chime in.

Absolutely beautiful babies regardless!

They all just fully came out of the egg last night, so have not shed yet. Will update this thread once they do to hopefully shine a little more light on this!

Yellowbelly could be a possibility... or Maybe mom is a low expression calico? Could explain the higher white belly markings on her.

The lesser baby looks like maybe it's a queenbee...? so pastel/lesser/spider
The other definitely looks much more washed out than an average pastel x spider so it's a matter of what else mom might be!

Either way they're super cute!