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  • 09-06-2018, 08:39 AM
    Reptilius
    A Question Out Of Curiosity
    From time to time I read of someone having a snake with a ringer, and the owner often seems quite excited about this.

    My questions are as follows:

    Does a Ringer add any value to a snake?

    Is a Ringer able to be passed on genetically?

    Is a Ringer a marker for any specific trait?

    Just curious to know, all answers will be appreciated.
  • 09-06-2018, 12:35 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    No

    Sometime

    It can be


    Ringers are helpful usually to identify possible het pied, every Poss Het Pied with ringer that I have produced has proved, I have to more to prove this coming season ;)
  • 09-06-2018, 12:56 PM
    Ax01
    Re: A Question Out Of Curiosity
    i have about a dozen animals w/ various stages of ringers.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    From time to time I read of someone having a snake with a ringer, and the owner often seems quite excited about this.

    My questions are as follows:

    Does a Ringer add any value to a snake?

    yes, it can but it depends. breeders may charge more for quality or it's visual appeal or genetic potential and buyers may deem it worthy.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Is a Ringer able to be passed on genetically?

    sure. for example, i have a Dave Green Champagne-combo from his extreme ringer-line. it basically looks like a mid-white Pied. DG-line Champagnes have consistently thrown mid to high white ringers. Dynasty Reptiles (DR) also has a line of their own ringers.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Is a Ringer a marker for any specific trait?

    if it comes from a Pied parent (or has had Pied in it's lineage), it can be an indicator for being het Pied. otherwise it's mostly just another (random) pattern like a paradox.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Just curious to know, all answers will be appreciated.

    very good questions. hope my experience helps.
  • 09-07-2018, 02:34 AM
    Reptilius
    I started checking my snakes last night for Ringers.

    I found my Pastel Mojave male with what looks like a Ringer. I will take a pic over the weekend and post on Monday.

    Thank you for your valuable input.
  • 09-07-2018, 02:37 AM
    Reptilius
    Sorry about all the questions, but does the Ring have to be white like a pied to be classed as a Ringer.
    I ask because I have seen pics of what people have called Ringers, but they are very faint or faded.
  • 09-07-2018, 03:51 PM
    Ax01
    Re: A Question Out Of Curiosity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Sorry about all the questions, but does the Ring have to be white like a pied to be classed as a Ringer.

    no, not really. if it's white and completely wraps, that's a full finger. as i mention, there are various stages of ringers. they can be abrupt disruptions in patterns, super blushed, partially white or full white rings (or more).

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    I ask because I have seen pics of what people have called Ringers, but they are very faint or faded.

    here are a few examples of my own ringers:

    the top one, a Black Pastel het Pied, has a melted pattern ringer and the bottom Black Pastel YB het Pied has a blushed ringer w/ a lil bit of white.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...m/0DoVkr9l.jpg

    this one has a complete ringer (w/ some unusual pixels going on):
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...m/Zkc5e4Ol.jpg

    this lil Champagne has a partial white ringer and white ringer tail tip:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...m/0TKmOc8l.jpg

    and this is another Champagne w/ an extreme ringer:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...m/UxbZtlgl.jpg
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