first clutch of 2018 ( c18-01 )

So i do not know how much you guys like determining stuff but it is giving me a head ache and very mixed determinations from my perspective plus missing certain things which i would expect from a morph.
What i notice a lot is that people come up with lesser combos, while yes i do think butter and lesser are either the same or very much a like. Butter is just a bit more yellower and creamier, compared to the more silver like lessers.
Which would also have its affect on combos....

Feel free to leave you own thoughts on what is is and why, i always love a good discussion :)

Anyway 8 eggs from the pairings:

Butter vanilla het ghost × pastel vanilla het ghost


and this is what we hatched:

18.1.1:
Other people: pastel
me: Pastel? with wonkey orangenes...?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/qmP5iAm.jpg


18.1.2:
Other people: Pastel super vanilla
me: Pastel super vanilla

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/2HwytDa.jpg



18.1.3: (one of the brain breakers...)
Other people: Butter pastel vanilla ....
me: Butter pastel super vanilla , head is way to blushed for just vanilla... ? And she has a lot of creamy colors to her! Also would look at bonus picture #1 for comparison with her sisters... (18.1.7 & 18.1.8)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/ITVbulH.jpg


18.1.4:
Other people: butter
me: butter

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/9r0TVmq.jpg



18.1.5:
Other people: Pastel vanilla
me: pastel vanilla (again with so much orange..)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/XIA9ASk.jpg


18.1.6:
Other people: Butter vanilla ghost / butter super vanilla
me: Thinking of butter super vanilla, but could also be a butter vanilla ghost. Also a bonus picture of him and his brotther bonus picture #2

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/YruRpdJ.jpg


18.1.7:
Other people: Butter pastel vanilla / butter pastel vanilla ghost
me: Butter (super) vanilla pastel ghost (bonus picture #1)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/3wnrUhA.jpg



18.1.8:
Other people: Butter pastel vanilla / butter pastel
me: Butter vanilla pastel (bonus picture #1) it has to much of a blushed head in my opinion for a butter pastel

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/d4gKMjG.jpg


Bonus picture #1:
Here you can see the difference between the 3 females.
18.1.3 left 18.1.7 middle 18.1.8 right You can see the 2 left have way funkier pattern, and the one on the right has to much head blushing for just a butter pastel in my opinion. Would the bussier pattern be the indicator of super vanilla? and the creamness of the most left one...

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/O8AkrXY.jpg

bonus picture #2:
The 2 brothers 18.1.2 on the left 18.1.6 on the right. Either they are both the same or the right one has hypo instead of super vanilla ...

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/qQP3F5T.jpg

Awesome clutch, congrats! I love the Vanilla gene just added to my collection as well. I agree with your assessment on each. Nice job!

All I know is they terribly good-looking & tempting. :cool:

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Originally Posted by fatSNAKEs

Awesome clutch, congrats! I love the Vanilla gene just added to my collection as well. I agree with your assessment on each. Nice job!

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Yes vanilla is very awesome! and got the second clutch hatching already with same male agains a pastel het ghost :P

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

All I know is they terribly good-looking & tempting. :cool:

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thank you ! A few are actually leaving :P