Didn't expect to see this on morph market...

Was browsing the "recent" section (during class, of course!) and came across the first scaleless BP i've seen on MM:
https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/105260

And *only* $30,000!

I do have to admit, they are quite the pretty color, though.

Also, its classified as a "Super Scaleless Head", which I find interesting. Its a co-dominant trait?

There have been 8 or 10 on there in recent months... Mojave Scaleless, Phantom Scaleless, Lemonblast Scaleless... Think I remember seeing a Fire Scaleless...

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Originally Posted by Slicercrush

Also, its classified as a "Super Scaleless Head", which I find interesting. Its a co-dominant trait?

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I think the het is missing some head scales but ir otherwise normal? There are a few similar ( though not identical) morphs including the true scaleless and the microscale? Some body please correct me if I'm way off base here?

Microscale has smaller than normal scales, in some cases they are missing some scales along the sides. Scaleless head is the het form of a full scaleless, and is missing a patch of scales on top of the head.

OMG!!!! That is the same price of a brand new car...at least mine. $450 was the most I ever paid for a bp. :omg:

Gorgeous snake. EBN makes some really nice stuff.

My understanding is that the scaleless head gene is co-dom and a fully scaleless snake is the super form. A lot of people call the scaleless heads "hets", but they're no more recessive than "het" red axanthics.

just out of curiosity, do the scales snakes have any issues? Like getting cut/scraped easier, retaining water, shedding, shorter lifespan? It just seems so unnatural to see a reptile without scales.

Like the hairless cats...unnatural and they are prone to some genetic issues

**No judgment on any breeders, just wondering

Well.... there are rumors about serious shedding issues, but either there is a serious cover up, or the rumors were started by people looking to slander the original guy who started the project.... I'm guessing the latter.

As far as getting injured more easily, that's kind of a given considering you just removed the snake' s armored plating. I wouldn't even think of feeding one of these things live prey....

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Originally Posted by dr del

I think the het is missing some head scales but ir otherwise normal?

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Yes, Scaleless-head is the het form and is characterized by missing head scales and also a general difference in the appearance of the scalation on the body. They also have reduced labial heat-pits.

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Originally Posted by dr del

There are a few similar ( though not identical) morphs including the true scaleless and the microscale? Some body please correct me if I'm way off base here?

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There is no one "true Scaleless". Both the superform of Scaleless-head and the superform of Microscale are scaleless-type animals. So far, all of the Scaleless animals on MorphMarket have been SuperScaleless-head