Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj) and Mystic Potion breeding questions.

Was originally thinking of BELs only but I have researched both Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj) and Mystic Potion and love the combo. They are slightly different and only 2 possible outcomes when breeding.

https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...-pythons/78986


https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...pythons/110896

Another benefit is that no normal will be produced this way. Later I might add the pinstripe in the mix for jigsaw I will keep playing with the combos and see what I can come up with but this is all in theory as of now.

Questions,

1) Are their any down sides to the pairing?
2) Health issues related to the pairing?
3) Special care needed for either morph?
4) Anyone have experience breeding them and can share their results?

Welcoming all advice here.

General breeding questions....

1) There is a lot of info on when they will be ready to breed. Is there an age when you should not continue breeding because it is a health issue for the snake?
2) I know a lot of people incubate. What is the down side to letting the Mother snake incubate them?

Thanks,
Sky

Are you asking about making super mojaves vs potions? Theres only a 1 gene difference if you count the super as 2 mojave. Have you seen an adult of either in person? That would probably help you pick which to buy. Or are you talking about future breeding? I have adults of most bel combos I can share.

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Are you asking about making super mojaves vs potions? Theres only a 1 gene difference if you count the super as 2 mojave. Have you seen an adult of either in person? That would probably help you pick which to buy. Or are you talking about future breeding? I have adults of most bel combos I can share.

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I am looking at future plans of breeding the two together 1 Super Mojave and one Mystic Potion together. I don't currently have either snake but researching pre-purchase so I know what to expect. Photos are welcome of both adults. Would you have a breeding pair of them for sale?

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I am looking at future plans of breeding the two together 1 Super Mojave and one Mystic Potion together. I don't currently have either snake but researching pre-purchase so I know what to expect. Photos are welcome of both adults. Would you have a breeding pair of them for sale?

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Sales cant be posted publicly. What are your goals with breeding? That pairing wont give you anything new for hold backs.

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Sales cant be posted publicly. What are your goals with breeding? That pairing wont give you anything new for hold backs.

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Not looking for something new for holdbacks. I also have a pinstripe that I might throw into the mix later. Just looking for advice on the pairing.

1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Super Mojave GHI Pastel	4	Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj) GHI Pastel
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	GHI Mojave Mystic Pastel	4	Mystic Potion GHI Pastel
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	GHI Mojave Mystic	3	Mystic Potion GHI
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Mojave Mystic Pastel	3	Mystic Potion Pastel
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Super Mojave Pastel	3	Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj) Pastel
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Super Mojave GHI	3	Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj) GHI
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Mojave Mystic	2	Mystic Potion
1/8	13%	55%	1/2c	Super Mojave	2	Blue Eyed Lucy (Moj Moj)

First is Pastel super mojave male and second is mystic potion probable GHI female. The price is 800 for the pair. Would be two years before they mature enough to breed especially the female. Does anybody have any comments about the pair?https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...eb7275d34b.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...442361f892.jpg

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Later if I throw pinstripe in the mix could be even more fun.

/	%	%/c	#/c	Traits	#Traits	Morph Name
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mystic Pastel Pinstripe	4	Lemon Blast GHI Mystic
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mojave Pastel Pinstripe	4	Pastave GHI Pinstripe
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mojave Pastel	3	Pastave GHI
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mystic Pinstripe	3	GHI Mystic Pinstripe
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mojave Pinstripe	3	Jigsaw GHI
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mojave Pastel Pinstripe	3	Pastave Pinstripe
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mystic Pastel	3	GHI Mystic Pastel
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mystic Pastel Pinstripe	3	Lemon Blast Mystic
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mojave Pinstripe	2	Jigsaw
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mystic	2	GHI Mystic
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mystic Pinstripe	2	Mystic Pinstripe
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	GHI Mojave	2	GHI Mojave
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mojave Pastel	2	Pastave
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mystic Pastel	2	Mystic Pastel
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mystic	1	Mystic
1/16	6%	32%	1/3c	Mojave	1	Mojave

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My only caution to you is that more and more I am seeing people breeding out MysticPotions/PurplePassions and not being able to tell the Mojave animals in the clutch from the Mystic/Phantom animals. So if you plant to breed your Potion to something in the future (like the Pinstripe you mention) you ought to make sure you do enough research so that you will be able to absolutely tell a MojavePin from a MysticPin (or whatever other combos you might have) when it comes time to sell off any offspring

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My only caution to you is that more and more I am seeing people breeding out MysticPotions/PurplePassions and not being able to tell the Mojave animals in the clutch from the Mystic/Phantom animals. So if you plant to breed your Potion to something in the future (like the Pinstripe you mention) you ought to make sure you do enough research so that you will be able to absolutely tell a MojavePin from a MysticPin (or whatever other combos you might have) when it comes time to sell off any offspring

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I was beginning to worry about this. I wonder if banana into the mix would help them to be easier to identify? Not sure if that is possible?

I like the idea of doing just a straight pairing between a Super Mojave and a Mystic Potion. I think both would sell very well and you could easily tell which is which. And both are really awesome combos without throwing other genes in the mix. Seems like when you add other genes it just muddies an otherwise awesome Mystic Potion, I have yet to see a gene that makes it a better looking snake.

Personally I would get a female Mystic Potion and a male Super Mojave. Not sure if I'd spread the Mystic gene around my collection, I'd keep it to the Mystic Potions. But a Super Mojave male can be mated with three or four females and used in other cool projects like a GHI Mojave, another really cool combo which would give you all GHI Mojaves and Super Mojaves. You could also buy a 'Crystal' female which is a Special Mojave. Cross that with a Super Mojave male and get all Crystals and Super Mojaves. One male and these three females and you can make a lot of really cool hatchlings, all with decent prices and a decent demand for those snakes. You could also throw in a Purple Passion (Phantom Mojave). With these pairs you would get zero normals!