Help ID... Purple Passion X Lesser Pastel clutch

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../0/8/karma.jpg

Karma?

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...armapastel.jpg

Karma Pastel?

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0/8/karma2.jpg

Karma?

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ntompastel.jpg

Phantom Pastel. I dont see green in the eyes, but that light head makes me wonder...

Could you help me out :P

I am going to try to help you but with the disclaimer that this is a nightmare combo if you want to positively identify babies. I do work with all these genes so I am going to give it my best shot.

I think 1 is karmas only. I'm 80% on this.

#2 is a either a lesser/mojave or a karma pastel.

#3 Is a karma possible karma pastel

#4 is a phantom pastel or pastave. The head is really light for a phantom pastel, but the body is really dark for a pastave. I would not expect this much blue in the eye in any case. The pattern should be a little more wonky for a phantom. So on #4 I am going to say I have no way to be definite at this point. Maybe a couple sheds and some more pictures with this one and you will be able to tell for sure.

For the bels I suggest putting them under a blacklight. You can see more of the underlying pattern that way.

In any case they are all pretty snakes.

I made a difficult pairing this year also and I overestimated my identification skills. Lavender Spider to a Lesser Mojave Possible Pastel. I ended up with 2 Lessers, 2 Mojaves, and 4 Lesser or Mojave Spiders. So far I cannot tell if the spiders are Lesser or Mojave with pastel maybe mixed in. I hope after they shed I will have a better idea.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...tompastel2.jpg

Thank you so much :) I know it´s a nightmere :P Here is a one pic more.

By that pic I am going to agree with you and say pastel phantom.

That second BEL is hard to tell but I agree with all of the other guesses and also work with all of those morphs. Love how dark that pastel phantom is!

Whatever they are there beautiful...

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