Help with ID please

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What was the pairing?

Father is a cinnamon, mother was bought as a cinnamon but turns out shes not one so I dont know what her genes are.

So the mother is some other morph or normal?


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Mother is definitely not a normal.

My first thought is a Pewter but post a couple photos of the mother in natural lighting

not great lighting but its all i have https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ps4cbejpsc.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psyjvsv6le.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psvoeeygvm.jpg

The hatchling definitely looks like a pewter to me. Especially in the last photo but can't be sure! The second and third picture are making me second guess myself so I'm curious what other posters with think this is!


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I know I am probably WAYYYY off but she looks like Het Red Axanthic with something else.

ok so ill take a stab at it and say mom looks like a het red axanthic which would make baby a gargoyle but it has a lot of blushing
has the baby shed yet? if not then my guess is gargoyle
was mom paired last season? any chance of retained sperm? if yes then baby may be just a pewter