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Female acting "restless"
I have NO idea if that has anything to do with possible breeding/follicles/eggs.
Maja, my big Bumblebee female has been locking up with my male off an on since last December.
I have never observed a ovulation. Once I thought I saw one, but most people said it didn't really look like one. Could have missed it, though.
She did the water bowl wrapping, hanging out in the cold area, hanging out in the warm area and she has been refusing food for about 3 or 4 weeks now. She has also not locked up with the male last time I tried (as I know of).
Then she shed about 5 days ago.
Now she is driving me batty. She is suddenly RESTLESS. But she doesn't want food. She has fresh water and everything else is on the up and up. The temps and humidity are perfect and as they always have been. The other snakes in the rack act "normal".
I'm not even sure that she has follicles or eggs. And about 3 weeks ago I had the scare with the loose probe and the temps going to high. All the snakes "seemed" fine then, they still do, aside from her weirdness. Because of the heat scare I don't even know if that may have destroyed any follicles that were there?
Anyway, has anyone ever had a gravid BP female acting restless ? She acts like she wants out of the tub. But when I open it, she just hangs around. I have double, tripple and quadruple checked all temps and everything. I did try feeding (no go)
I just put the male back with her to see if that is what she wants, lol.
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Re: Female acting "restless"
My girl is due to lay on 7th April and she is restless as can be. She is roaming her Viv, tipping things over, getting into weird positions etc xx
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Last night she showed ZERO interest in the male. This morning she is locked with him, or at least their tails are lined up.
So I guess she hasn't had a ovulation yet, since they are supposed to refuse males ?
She is driving me crazy. I just want to make sure she is alright and was trying to figure out why she was restless..sigh.
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They do get restless before laying, however with everything else you said, I don't think its time. I would go ahead and carefully "feel her up" after the male comes out. If she is paying any attention to the male odds are she was just looking for love.
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Where is she located when she is not restless cool or warm side, a female that has ovulated will move to the warm side.
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Re: Female acting "restless"
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Where is she located when she is not restless cool or warm side, a female that has ovulated will move to the warm side.
She had been more in her warm side, esp. ever since she started refusing food (about 3/4 weeks ago, need to check)
Prior to that, she was on the cool side, wrapping the waterbowl at times.
About a week ago she shed, and a few days leading up to that she crammed her top end into the water bowl which she has NEVER done before...
So she had been on warm side for a couple weeks, then the weird water bowl diving, then she shedding, after the shedding the weird restless ness. Which is mostly on the cool side, because she is in the front of the tub, where it opens. Its as if she wants OUT. When she takes breaks from being restless, she is kind of in the middle between warm and cool, not coiled super tight, either..
Temps, humidity, all on par.
Feeding was still refused during the restlessness.
The male was ignored , last attempt (before last night) was before the shedding, they didn't lock.
Now they are locked.
I just want her to be ok..
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I'm not worried about whether the breeding works out.
My priority are the snakes I already have ;)
Hatchlings would be nice, breeding is exciting and the hatchlings I "would" get would be marketable (although profit is not my priority, either)
But most important to me are the adults. I still have lingering fears that the "overheating" episode a few weeks may have caused some hidden issues...
Although I have not noticed anything with the other snakes and with Maja, its just the weird restlessness.
Since its the first time I'm pairing them all up, I don't know if any "odd" behavior is due to that, or possibly because of other reasons.
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Ah!!! Water bowl cramming. My big enchi girl started this crap last week. She did it last year too. She would actually rotate ends. Sometimes head, sometimes tail. She is ovulating as we speak. Looks like she ate a frigging watermelon and boy is she grumpy.
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LOL. I know, it is all so weird to me.
She hasn't done any of that stuff in all of the 6 years I've had her...sheesh.
The thing is, after the waterbowl cramming she shed. So maybe this was the shed BEFORE ovulation and she DID want the male and tried to get out to "get some" ??
sigh, if only they could talk!!
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The problem with all this is there are always exceptions to the rule. Sometimes a female will accept a male "late". I can't remember who it was but there is a respected breeder that said he actually had a female lay while he was still pairing and the male was in the tub. Some will eat "late". Neither of these things are the norm however. What I have found is that a particular female stays true to her own patterns.
It does not do any good to worry. It won't fix anything. Nothing you have said sets any alarms off with me, but I don't know the animal and I can't see it. If there was permanent damage done by overheating, there is nothing that can fix it. You can kick yourself in the butt if you want, but that will change nothing. Stuff happens. The best thing you can do to help clear your mind is examine the girl. Deborah can probably describe how to do this better than me.
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