Gargoyle x bumblebee

I looked up what a gargoyle to bumblebee would make and more gargoyles didn't come up, wouldn't you get more? And wouldn't they make the kraken and pastel krakens?

Have you tried the calculator?

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What i looked up said the spider gene wouldnt be viable but it gave a few different possible outcomes

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Originally Posted by Vicki1989

I looked up what a gargoyle to bumblebee would make and more gargoyles didn't come up, wouldn't you get more? And wouldn't they make the kraken and pastel krakens?

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Gargoyles can't reproduce themselves like that.If the bumblebee has ciny or het red in it, then you have the chance.
If you breed a gargoyle to a normal half the baby's will be cinny, and the other half will be het red and no normals.

Well I tried the app first. I just did the one online one and it showed gargoyles and the kraken but didn't have the 4 geane combo. The bumblebee is just bumblebee and that's how I put it in the genetic wizard.

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Originally Posted by ajmreptiles

Gargoyles can't reproduce themselves like that.If the bumblebee has ciny or het red in it, then you have the chance.
If you breed a gargoyle to a normal half the baby's will be cinny, and the other half will be het red and no normals.

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I'm confused. Are there various mixtures of morphs named Gargoyle? WOBP has a Black Pastel/Green Pastel called gargoyle, but also the Cinny/Het Red Axanthic (the latter confusing on its own since it's a co-dom gene, why in the heck is it "het?) that it calls gargoyle.

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Originally Posted by BPGator

I'm confused. Are there various mixtures of morphs named Gargoyle? WOBP has a Black Pastel/Green Pastel called gargoyle, but also the Cinny/Het Red Axanthic (the latter confusing on its own since it's a co-dom gene, why in the heck is it "het?) that it calls gargoyle.

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you can basically get the combo from either. the combo is very much akin to vanilla creams and that complex or the bel complex. to where the offspring will be 50% one half and 50% the other half but not reproducing itself and no normals

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Originally Posted by Vicki1989

Well I tried the app first. I just did the one online one and it showed gargoyles and the kraken but didn't have the 4 geane combo. The bumblebee is just bumblebee and that's how I put it in the genetic wizard.

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So someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this makes sense. The bumblebee is a Pastel Spider, two genes which reside on different alleles. The Gargoyle is a Cinny Het Red, which are on the same allele. The Gargoyle parent is only able to pass on one gene from each allele, so it will either give the Cinny or the Het Red to the offspring, but not both. This is also why none of the offspring would be normal, since all offspring would either get a Cinny or Het Red gene.

If the cinnamon hra gargoyles can't make more gargoyles with the bumblebee be why does the genetic wizard on world of ball pythons website give the kraken and more gargoyles?

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Originally Posted by Vicki1989

If the cinnamon hra gargoyles can't make more gargoyles with the bumblebee be why does the genetic wizard on world of ball pythons website give the kraken and more gargoyles?

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Good question. I had put in Black Pastel / Green Pastel with Pastel Spider and it gives the correct result. But Cinny / HRA with Pastel Spider says it's possible for all to be passed.