Black widow?

Pairing was Bumblebee x black pastel. The two look pretty different and of course there will be variation within morphs but I think they are both black widows. Just looking for other opinions, what do you think?

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One pick is with flash one without.

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I know nothing of ID, but they are epic!

look like widow's to me
nice !!

The one on the left for sure. Do you have more pics of the rest of the clutch? Im on the fence with the one on the right.

Maybe black widow and a black pewter widow. The one on the right (in the first pic, left in the second) looks lighter, so it could also have pastel.

Black widow is black pastel, pastel spider.

Top to bottom left to right- spider, black bee, black pastel, the one in question, black pastel, pastel and black widow.

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the_rotten1 did you mean just black pewter? That was my first impression but the pattern is spider like which is why I made this post.

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Im leaning towards black widow for the other one as well. The head is too light to be a black pewter. Does it exhibit a wobble?

Haven't seen any wobble neither does the dam though.

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