Why the heck do people keep breeding spider morphs?

Considering that most people do some research if they're interested in buying a morph or breeding- what's with all the spider BPs for sale? Is it just that not everyone knows their potential genetic defect, or am I being too cautious? I saw a beautiful bee at my local reptile store but if I recall correctly, they have spider in them. It's just weird to me that breeders continue to produce them.

I suppose people don't care if the animal is defective, or won't know for sure, so they continue to breed out of greed/ignorance/etc. Different people have different preferences I suppose.

The majority's reason being that the genetic defect associated with spiders doesn't interfere with their ability to eat and thrive as a normal snake, at least in a captive environment as pets. It just gives them a lopsided motion when they're moving about or they rest in funny positions.

Because we like the morph. I'll breed my bumblebee ball when she gets up to size. They're pretty animals and it doesnt stop them from eating and thriving. I've only noticed mine exhibitng weird behavior once so far and it's when she was deep in shed. She eats and everything just fine and I love it.

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I mean, I agree that I wouldn't want to work with Spiders, or trying to make a super hidden gene Woma for that matter, but a lot of people don't care. The genetic defects aren't severe enough to make people not work with them at all, and thus they keep being bred for. Perhaps in time the genetic defects will be worked out through selective breeding.

There's a demand for spider morphs so breeders provide the supply.


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Ive got an albino spider, bumblebee, spider het ghost orange ghost, and unknown spider morph. Personal preference but i like the gene.

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Originally Posted by m1lkhoney

Considering that most people do some research if they're interested in buying a morph or breeding- what's with all the spider BPs for sale? Is it just that not everyone knows their potential genetic defect, or am I being too cautious? I saw a beautiful bee at my local reptile store but if I recall correctly, they have spider in them. It's just weird to me that breeders continue to produce them.

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How many spiders have you owned or produced that make you think their quality of life is any different than any other mutations? Sure there are a few extreme cases but guess what Champagne and woman also display the same issues if you want to call it an issue, do we need to stop breeding those too?

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Originally Posted by Cin

I suppose people don't care if the animal is defective, or won't know for sure, so they continue to breed out of greed/ignorance/etc. Different people have different preferences I suppose.

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Yep the greed of producing a $45/$75 animal that must be it......ignorance you said. :rolleyes:

Bottom line Spider are great looking and make great looking great looking combos and their "issue" is not affecting their quality of life, at least not in the vast majority of cases.

When breeding you thrive to produce animals that will have a good quality of life and spiders in that regard have the same quality of life than any other animals, also as a breeder if you are to produce something that did not have a shot at a good quality of life you would do what you have to whether it's a spider a cinny or a normal, culling is part of breeding interestingly enough I can tell you that I have never culled a spider but I have other animals.

Ultimately people breed what they want to breed and if it's not YOUR thing (since it cannot be bred out) it's ok no one is forcing you to buy or breed spiders, however who are YOU for knocking down people who do even though you have ZERO experience with the mutation (owning or breeding)?

BTW no I don't breed Spiders (but O have produce my fair share of then) and no I did not stop because of "issues" just because I have a different focus.

I agree with Deborah. If you have never owned the spider gene why are you knocking it? I own a beautiful BP that has the spider gene and the ONLY time it is noticeable is every once in a while when she eats (i.e. She has ate 3 times for me the first time and the last time nothing was off the second time she was really excited and her head wobbled a little when she struck so she grabbed the tail instead of the body but she still constricted and ate fine). I plan to breed her once she gets old enough and that's not greed or ignorance I think she is gorgeous and would produce some amazing babies. I have also owned bumblebees and spiders and they didn't have a wobble that affected them at all.

My vanilla butter banana spider:

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I'm not knocking it; I think they're beautiful. I didn't mean to offend. I've just heard a lot of arguments against breeding spiders and was looking for input. I'm sorry if that came across wrong. In fact, I was hoping to reach someone who DOES breed them because I'm not being snide; i would like a different perspective.

Deborah, I've learned a lot from reading your posts and I always appreciate your input but I think maybe you interpreted my question as snide. I'm here to learn, so I ask questions.