Wobble

I watched several YouTube videos regarding wobble in ball pythons and all the videos where of some sort of spider morph. Iam wondering if I should not deal with the morph an avoid the potential nightmare.

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Sometimes it's severe, sometimes its negligible. Other morphs have it as well, (Woma, Hidden Gene Woma, Champagne, Super Sable, Powerball) and certain combos of those morphs have extreme wobbles (Champagne x Spider, and Sable x Spider notably) However, not all exhibit the trait the same, and plenty of snakes with wobble have fine lives. Some don't exhibit the trait at all.

I myself have a Bumblebee Ball, and she doesn't wobble like the snakes you see in videos. Still, you DO notice the trait sometimes, you'll occasionally find her doing slow derpy loops. She's been doing it a lot more recently while she's been in shed (which I'm sure being in shed stresses her out, and stress can make the trait show through). Still, I love her, and she does everything just fine. No problems eating or lowered quality of life that I've noticed. You have to weigh the risk to the reward with what YOU want. If you get a snake with any of those genes, know there is a chance that it will wobble, and decide if you're okay with that. I personally am fine with it, only you know if you are okay with it.

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Most spider and combos are doing just fine, eat great, are inquisitive, breed perfectly and maintain a perfectly normal life, sure you have exceptions that are train wrecks but it's not the majority.

Ultimately it's up to YOU to chose to work with a specific mutation or not, what you need to know is that ALL spider and combos wobble, it varies from one individual to another, it can be from hardly noticeable to severe, it can change over time (worse to mild ad vice versa) and can be trigger by things such as stress, high temps excitement (during feeding). A severe wobbler can produce offsprings with hardly noticeable wobbling and vice versa also.


And you need to also keep in mind that there are other mutation that are known for wobbling as well Champagne, Woma.

Now you know YOU decide.

I have produced my fair share of spiders and spider combos and never had any issue, I no longer work with them but it has to do with the fact that I have decided to focus on a few select Hypo, Pied and Clown projects and spiders were no longer fitting those projects just like I few other mutations I have let go off as well too.

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Originally Posted by cheosamad

However, not all exhibit the trait the same, and plenty of snakes with wobble have fine lives. Some don't exhibit the trait at all.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Ultimately it's up to YOU to chose to work with a specific mutation or not, what you need to know is that ALL spider and combos wobble, it varies from one individual to another, it can be from hardly noticeable to severe, it can change over time (worse to mild ad vice versa) and can be trigger by things such as stress, high temps excitement (during feeding). A severe wobbler can produce offsprings with hardly noticeable wobbling and vice versa also.

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This is what I meant to say/should have said. Obviously if they have the Spider gene, then they have to neurological disorder. What I should have said was no all spiders/spider combos show this trait in a noticeable or extreme fashion at all times. My apologies.

Thanks for the information. Id rather play it safe than take a chance iam doing this with my 9 yr old daughter and would rather her not see something like that if I can avoid it.

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What about mystic ,black Pastel , pinstripe morph?

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Originally Posted by robert7107

What about mystic ,black Pastel , pinstripe morph?

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These are not affected but if you breed the black pastel to another black pastel or cinnamon, they tend to have kinking issues.

Ya I ment to say non super form... Sorry
Banana is another fav. May just put up with extra $$

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