Super cinnamons/black pastels?

I want to know more about super cinnamons and black pastel. I have heard they sometimes come out with deformities? How often is this, and is there a way to prevent it? I love the solid black look and really want to get one. But I also dont want to produce a clutch deformed babys, that would be much too hard on me.

I know there are perfectly fine super versions of both supers, however there is no way to guarantee that there would be no deformed babies if you decided to go for the super. If you get a super and then breed it to any other morph to make regular (non super) combos then the risk of deformities goes way down (it will never be zero, even a normal can end up with a deformity for a variety of reasons).

is there any way to lower the risk of deformities?

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Originally Posted by tegu

is there any way to lower the risk of deformities?

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None that are known. Not worth the risk in my opinion.

Thats what I was thinking. I dont want any animals to suffer for my own greed.

If you think hatching deformed babies will be too hard for you, you might want to reconsider breeding all together because no matter what you pair, you will lose hatchling and you will produce hatchlings deformed enough that they will have to be euthanize.

As for super cinny and Super Black Pastel it happens even when you outcross, they are just prone to issues which is why some people chose not to work with the supers, I work with back pastels I just have no interest in working with supers.

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If you wanted to decrease the likelihood, you might find a breeder who hasn't had any issues producing supers without deformities. This doesn't rule out the possibility, but it might help your odds.

Any snake can produce a deformed hatchling. Any egg can have an issue during incubation that causes a deformity. It CAN happen, and every breeder should be aware and be prepared and willing to deal with the occasion, should it happen.

I could handle one deformed baby what I'd have trouble with is a full clutch of them. I Will avoid the supers of these morphs because of this. I'm not going to go into something knowing the deformities are at a higher rate.

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I could handle one deformed baby what I'd have trouble with is a full clutch of them. I Will avoid the supers of these morphs because of this. I'm not going to go into something knowing the deformities are at a higher rate.

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Full clutch of deformed babies can still happen regardless of the mutation, breeding is not only about all the cute hatchlings people post, there's the heartbreak too.....Just some food for the thoughts.

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Gosh that's heartbreaking. But I think that the harder part for me would be finding a good home for the poor little guys. Finding a good home for reptiles is TOUGH. I've rescued a few but the amount that get left behind is ridiculous.