Dual sired clutches

Hey everyone, I have been curious as to know what the chances are of getting hatchlings to share genes of two sites bred to a single dam. From what I can tell it is completely random and you might only end up with one sire's babies, but I'm not sure if there is more science behind this. Thanks for the info in advance! :)


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To give you an idea in the past 9 years it only happened to me once.

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Originally Posted by Robbie82

Hey everyone, I have been curious as to know what the chances are of getting hatchlings to share genes of two sites bred to a single dam. From what I can tell it is completely random and you might only end up with one sire's babies, but I'm not sure if there is more science behind this. Thanks for the info in advance! :)


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Just to be clear because of the wording of your question. A single baby can only have one father. It cannot have genes from multiple fathers. A female ball can have eggs where each egg does not have the same father.

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

Just to be clear because of the wording of your question. A single baby can only have one father. It cannot have genes from multiple fathers. A female ball can have eggs where each egg does not have the same father.

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Thanks! I was confused about that, but thanks for clearing it up.


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Originally Posted by Deborah

To give you an idea in the past 9 years it only happened to me once.

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Deborah, have you found that it's typically the last male to lock with the female that's been siring the clutches or is it more random?

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Originally Posted by mwolf

Deborah, have you found that it's typically the last male to lock with the female that's been siring the clutches or is it more random?

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Good question, doubt is has to do with being the last male but more about having the right male at the right moment, but than again it might not mean anything either. A few years back I paired a female nothing happened that season, she did not take did not lay, so the following season I paired her with a completely different male saw a few locks than ovy than she laid eggs and surprise the sire was the male from the previous season. :rolleyes:

two sperm cells wont combine into a super sperm in an egg to form a multi fathered animal. I found this article which explained the subject.


" There are two types of twins; identical and non-identical. Identical or monozygotic twins are formed when one egg is fertilized by one sperm which then divides into two separate embryos. Each shares exactly the same genetic components and identical genetic structures. Identical twins also share a placenta.

Non-identical or dizygotic twins form from two separate eggs being fertilized by two separate sperm. These twins are their own unique little individuals and share no more genetic composition than siblings with the same parents. Each baby in a non-identical twin pair will have its own placenta.

Another name for non-identical twins is fraternal; the other name for identical twins is non-fraternal."

https://www.huggies.com.au/childbirt...s/twins/how-to

It's a very common in my collection to produce from multiple sires, I call those clutches a who's your daddy clutch, of the 7 clutches that I've hatched out this year so far two of them have had multiple sires, you can see one of those clutches on YouTube and the other one will be uploaded after they shed.

A few years ago I hatched out babies from one clutch that had three fathers, I have a friend that has actually hatched out a clutch that had four different fathers.

Most of my dominant and co dominant clutches have purposefully been set up for who's your daddy clutches.

Good luck

Brian Gundy

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Originally Posted by For Goodness Snakes

It's a very common in my collection to produce from multiple sires, I call those clutches a who's your daddy clutch, of the 7 clutches that I've hatched out this year so far two of them have had multiple sires, you can see one of those clutches on YouTube and the other one will be uploaded after they shed.

A few years ago I hatched out babies from one clutch that had three fathers, I have a friend that has actually hatched out a clutch that had four different fathers.

Most of my dominant and co dominant clutches have purposefully been set up for who's your daddy clutches.

Good luck

Brian Gundy

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Brian,

So all of yours were on purpose or were some of them cases of retained sperm?

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

Brian,

So all of yours were on purpose or were some of them cases of retained sperm?

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Actually I've only experienced one clutch that had retained sperm, all of the other ones were on purpose. I'd say out of twenty clutches I'll get two that will give me a who's your daddy clutch. What's interesting is that I don't always see multiple morphs, as an example the two that I've seen so far this season have been from gold blush super mojaves bred to a gold blush crystal. Those clutches should have produced crystals and super mojos, but instead I ended up with crystals, super mojaves and mojaves.

Brian