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  • 02-17-2016, 01:44 AM
    tipposan
    Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    Will be getting another BP soon and I was wondering if I would be able to keep them in the same tank.

    One is about 4 years old and the other is about 3 months old.

    One is a normal BP and the other is an albino Yellow Belly.

    Here are the pics.

    https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1551/...3fcfcc97aa.jpg20151212_203332 by closhusan, on Flickr

    FYI. He's in a 36" long tank.

    and

    https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1527/...5304453985.jpg"Candi" by closhusan, on Flickr

    I do have another cage (his old one) and all the stuff with it but I was thinking about trying to save some space. I am just concerned that since there is such a size difference there may be a chance of the smaller one getting crushed.

    Let me know.
  • 02-17-2016, 02:02 AM
    SmoothScales
    Short answer? DON'T DO IT.

    Longer answer? There are a list of cons an arm long. Pros? Nothing I can say in a civil manner that won't come across as insulting and/or get me an infraction notice. Yes, some experienced keepers will swear by it. Key word here - 'Experienced'. I personally would never advice someone to do so.

    Some food for thought -

    If one snake gets sick, the other one will be exposed. You may not even be able to tell which one is sick.
    Snake's are solitary creatures. They do not want - or need - company from another snake. And they certainly are not 'cuddling'.
    There will be a constant battle for dominance over the choice spots.
    There will be constant stress for both snakes.
    It wouldn't be safe to feed them in the enclosure, which means moving to feed which ALSO leads to an arm's length list of WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT???
    Cannibalism. It happens. And size difference does NOT make a difference. Snakes of the same size can even give it a go. Usually both snakes end up dead.
    Same sex rape as a show of dominance. Which will leave the non-dominant male potentially unable to breed in the future due to damage.
    Undersized breeding if the snakes are male/female. Which could lead to your female being egg bound, dying, etc.
    You'll never know who regurged, should that occur.

    But hey, don't take my word for it. Someone much more eloquent wrote up an article you can read here.

    Edit:

    Just an additional note. People can say they don't have problems co-habbing all they want. The reality of it is it's 'fine' right up until its not, and by the time its not it's to late and now you've got a much bigger problem on your hands. Besides - what humans perceive as 'fine' in our terms is not 'fine' in snake terms.
  • 02-17-2016, 02:51 AM
    Lizardlicks
    Remember, or imagine if you never had the experience, that time you were in college in the tiny dorm room, forced to share your space with a complete stranger. No matter how innocuous and agreeable your dorm-mate, there would still come times when you were sick to death of each other and needed to get out for a breather.

    Now think about how you would feel if you never had that option of leaving, you were in the same space with the same person 24/7. Now remember that humans are social creatures who naturally seek out company, and that snakes are not.

    If you're concerned about space, I would advise switching to a rack system if you absolutely feel you want/need more animals. The other option is don't get more snakes. You need to be able to provide optimal care for each of your animals to maintain their health and well being, not just what is convenient for you.
  • 02-17-2016, 06:08 AM
    KMG
    :popcorn:
  • 02-17-2016, 06:31 AM
    Kokorobosoi
    Lizard licks that description reminded me of orange is the new black. Prison is bad. Prison has riots, tampon sandwiches, and toothbrush daggers. Don't give your snakes toothbrush daggers.
  • 02-17-2016, 09:32 AM
    SKO
    Re: Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    We provide enclosures and husbandry that matches the snakes' natural environment as closely as possible. We want them to feel secure and be healthy. Naturally, these snakes do not cohab unless for breeding. They don't have dens, they don't hang out with each other, and that's the way they have been doing it for centuries. No need to try and change that now. It just adds stress and can lead to health problems for them, and monetary problems for you.
  • 02-17-2016, 10:21 AM
    Lizardlicks
    Re: Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kokorobosoi View Post
    Lizard licks that description reminded me of orange is the new black. Prison is bad. Prison has riots, tampon sandwiches, and toothbrush daggers. Don't give your snakes toothbrush daggers.

    omg thanks I just laughed myself into a new coughing fit XD

    viruses are fun, yo.
  • 02-17-2016, 11:19 AM
    mdb730
    Re: Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    Plain and simple, don't do it. it's not in a BPs nature to live with another BP, they are solitary creatures in the wild. Housing them together will stress them out and who knows what can happen next.
  • 02-17-2016, 11:31 AM
    bcr229
    Re: Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SKO View Post
    Naturally, these snakes do not cohab unless for breeding.

    And even when we put them together for breeding one sometimes will kill the other, which happened to one of the bigger breeders over the weekend according to his Facebook post - the female killed the male.
  • 02-17-2016, 11:53 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Keeping more than 1 snake in the same tank...
    Also, you must consider your quarantine practices and how is that going to get accomplished if you are cohabbing. Come on, you have to give the reptiles a chance! I would absolutely abort the idea of cohabbing at any time. Just get a tub from home depot and a heating device and thermostat/ rheostat from Reptile Basics and call it a decision that is final... no cohabitation here!
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