Could these morphs make a super pastel?

I have a friend that was looking for a bp and went to a breeder and he has one for sale he is labeling as a super pastel. My friend wasn't sure so he didn't buy it for two reasons. First was bc I have a super pastel, which wouldn't of bothered me lol second reason was bc of what world of ball pythons genetic wizard told him. The sire was a bumblebee and Dame was ruppel pastel and according to wobp a super pastel isn't possible but a pastel is. Basically my question is could a super pastel be a possible outcome? Or is wobp spot on?

Not to familiar with a Ruppel Pastel, but a Bumblebee (spider, pastel ) and another pastel should have the opportunity to make a super pastel because both parents have it. BUT I have no idea what Ruppel Pastel is or if its "compatible" with other pastels (weird?) It does look like a beautiful line of Pastel in my opinion

I used almighty google and got this...

Regular Ruppel Pastel
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/ruppel-pastel/

Did the snake look close to this?

(Super Ruppel Pastel)
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ruppel-pastel/

I'll text him and see if he has pics. There is quite a few possible combinations for that pair but super pastel isn't one according to wobp. It may just be a ruppel pastel. The breeder was asking 250 and its a male and that's a lot if its just a pastel. I'm not sure the going rate for a ruppel pastel.

It is possible Bumble Bee X Pastel will yield the following (those are chances per egg)

12.5% Normal
25% Pastel
12.5% Spider
25% Bumble Bee
12.5% Super Pastel
12.5% Killer Bee

Ruppel is just a another line of Pastel which is compatible with any other lie of pastels

That is expensive for a male "pastel" for sure. If the pics arent anything near the super I would pass. What parts are you from? Theres many breeders on here that I'm sure have better quality/priced animals than what he has to offer (no offense to the breeder)

From NW PA. Yes 250 is a lot for a pastel. But if its a ruppel would that be a good price? He is labeling it as a super. I'll have to put the pics up once he sends them to me. I don't wan't say who the breeder is bc he does make beautiful balls and everyone makes mistakes and I don't want to discredit him. I bought my super from him and he is no doubt a super. I'll get pics and see what you all think and go talk to the breeder. He is a good guy and willing to admit that he made a mistake, if in fact he even made one. I'll probably have pics up sometime tomorrow. Have to wait till work and have my friend Bluetooth them to me.

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Originally Posted by BigJay

That is expensive for a male "pastel" for sure. If the pics arent anything near the super I would pass. What parts are you from? Theres many breeders on here that I'm sure have better quality/priced animals than what he has to offer (no offense to the breeder)

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If you know of a few breeders near NW PA let me know bc the one I go to is the only one I know of around here. Yet I haven't looked much either.

I like to browse the big websites because you know there credible. Along http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=32 the www.Reptilering.com is a nice site to browse, they always have random morphs. Not always what your looking for but sometimes you find something awesome for a steal of a price. Kingsnake you can search through the largest list of breeders and morphs. Thats how I found a big girl for my hypo banana from Deborah, and she turned me onto the forum! What a wonderful place the internet. :gj:

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

I have a friend that was looking for a bp and went to a breeder and he has one for sale he is labeling as a super pastel. My friend wasn't sure so he didn't buy it for two reasons. First was bc I have a super pastel, which wouldn't of bothered me lol second reason was bc of what world of ball pythons genetic wizard told him. The sire was a bumblebee and Dame was ruppel pastel and according to wobp a super pastel isn't possible but a pastel is. Basically my question is could a super pastel be a possible outcome? Or is wobp spot on?

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Super pastel is possible, one of the problems of WOBP listing lines of the same morph separately is it doesnt always recognize that breeding two lines does indeed give you a super. Since you put in a specific line of pastel for the male and generic pastel for the female, WOBP didnt combine them.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Ruppel is just a another line of Pastel which is compatible with any other lie of pastels

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This right here. Someone looking or a namesake and at $250.... WoW