..2 Days, HOPEFULLY..

According to the reproductive chart since October 5 2015 with more than enough locks from her brother and the pastel het pied i understand that a normal/ het pied and a pastel/ het pied would be produced until/if i get a female het pied out of the clutch, my love should OVULATE in 2 days very excited <--pt1, she's been hugging the water bowl and has been (soaking a lil<---no mites included ;)) I'm excited <--pt2 again to rearrange my apt for the loves of my life...:gj: :gj:..NO slick talk needed but now if my first 2 loves were from the same clutch of WHATEVER shouldn't i see a visual..?? notice how i didn't put morph at the end of last sentence because i have morphs already just want to see what will be produced...

You won't necessarily get any het pied babies. Since neither parent is a visual piebald, theres only a 66% chance of the offspring carrying the pied gene as well, and that's only if the pastel is 100% het pied. If he's only 66% het pied himself, the percentage I believe drops to 50% chance of hets. Meaning half the clutch could possibly not carry the gene at all. So knowing the background on your breeder animals is important if you have a specific project your working on. If you are trying to make pieds but can't afford a visual, I say get another 100% het animal and breed the two hets. At least you would have a chance of producing a visual animal. And depends on which males sperm she retained but you'll either see normals or pastels, or a mixture of both!

Good luck with you project, can't wait to see the outcome!

the pastel het pied was sold as 100%... thanks for the positive comment young lady..:gj:

Bumping this above that mess.....smh

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Originally Posted by ECechoHO

the pastel het pied was sold as 100%... thanks for the positive comment young lady..:gj:

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Then, if I were you, I'd look into getting a 100% het female. If you don't want to wait another couple years for her to get to size, really look around everywhere online, or at reptile shows and I'm sure you will find someone selling a breeder size 100% het pied, even better if she's proven! Otherwise, you could technically hold back a couple female offspring and when the are ready breed the male back to them, but there's no guarantee they inherited the gene necessary to make pieds.

You'll figure it out, whichever route you take, I'm sure it will be worth it to you in the end!

You stand a 50% chance of getting a het pied but seeing that you bred both of your males to her then the only possible would be if there are any pastels in the clutch. If its a whole clutch of normals then there is even less chance of producing any possible het pieds.

You will not get any visual pieds from this match. At best they will be 50% possible hets. By throwing two males at her you really screwed up the chance Of having 50% hets.

I also don't think you can predict ovulation to know it will be 2 days so you may have some more waiting to do.

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This.

It's an important thing to remember that not only haven't the bp's read those books there really is no way to predict when you get ovulation that exactly - you can guess from the size of the follicles if you are good at palpating or have an ultrasound but even then the best you can say is....soon.

The timeline firms up a lot after ovulation however. ;)

Thanks erryyone<--southern accent, i kinda already knew i'd need a 100% het female to see pied visuals i was mainly talking about whatever lovely and her brother are from the same clutch.. I have no idea what produced them they were a craigslist pickup in east orange new jersey, i was so gassed to get more BPs after my 4.5 year TBI rehab i didn't ask any questions what bred them<--- russian roulette, i just wanted them as pets as before a long time ago to keep my mind right and share my new life with but it's always good to see a son or daughter<---(snake son or daughter) have grand babies for the pet owner... I'll post pictures after i'm done transferring them to the bucket.. Thanks againg erryyone..