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Piebald Question

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  • 12-03-2015, 12:08 PM
    soccertwin91
    Piebald Question
    I work with quite a few ball pythons between my job at a pet store and job in a reptile building at a wildlife park, and I've always wanted to get a ball. I finally was able to purchase a Piebald Ball Python.

    My question is that I've only seen a few piebalds in person and everyone I've seen before has had very dark eyes to the point the pupil is barely visible, however my Pied seems to have blue eyes not quite as vibrant as a blue eyed leucistic I don't think but is it unusual for a pied to have blueish eyes or is it pretty common and just the ones I've mostly seen have had dark eyes?

    Here's a photo of my Pied to show the eyes.

    http://i65.tinypic.com/2zftk5u.png

    Here's a full body picture

    http://i65.tinypic.com/2gtaydj.png

    It is just a regular Piebald right?
  • 12-03-2015, 12:47 PM
    soccertwin91
    Re: Piebald Question
    Tried to get a few more pictures if it helps determine if just a regular piebald that happens to have blue eyes or if something else is causing the blue eyes

    Here's the belly
    http://i63.tinypic.com/ffbyxh.jpg

    Here's eyes in more natural light
    http://i66.tinypic.com/2helpqh.jpg

    Here's the head
    http://i66.tinypic.com/264lwe9.jpg

    Here's back pattern
    http://i66.tinypic.com/308ywso.jpg
  • 12-03-2015, 01:05 PM
    soccertwin91
    Re: Piebald Question
    Eyes didn't come out well in the natural light and wouldn't let me edit here's new pic of eyes

    http://i64.tinypic.com/j9mrgp.jpg

    Hopefully that should help figure out if anything interesting going on
  • 12-03-2015, 09:01 PM
    juggalodudz
    looks like its in shed
  • 12-03-2015, 09:12 PM
    BCS
    If it isn't in shed, there are a few reason for blue eyes in an otherwise black eyed snake.

    1. Infection. This is a common cause for bluish cloudy eyes. She will need to see a vet.
    2. Retained eye caps. Depending on how many retained eye caps she may need to see a vet.
    3. Blindness. If you want to test this, use an object such as a wooden spoon that doesn't have a heat signature and place it on either side of the snake's head. If she doesn't react, she could be blind. Remember they feel vibrations so do not touch anything.
  • 12-13-2015, 12:41 AM
    FluppleWott
    Re: Piebald Question
    Not sure if it's just the lighting in that last pic, but the scales on its head look interesting. It looks like leftover shed but maybe it's just a pied thing, I've never had one personally so idk. Is there any loose shed skin flaking off? You could try very gently wiping the area with a soft, warm, moistened cloth if there's retained shed.

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  • 12-13-2015, 09:34 PM
    wolfy-hound
    I second the retained eye caps opinion. When you look at the picture from above they look clouded instead of clear.
  • 12-13-2015, 10:00 PM
    labyrinth
    As above, there's scales missing on top of the head so I'd say the last shed wasn't a great one. Gorgeous bright pied but worth investigating the eye caps :)
  • 12-14-2015, 12:43 AM
    BrianDallek
    The colors are nice and bright, but a lot of "normal" pieds are bright when they are young. I also think what your seeing is retained eye caps. Im suprised that with all your exposure to reptiles you didnt notice this?? Im sure you were hoping someone was going to tell you it might be pastel or Yb, but i dont see it. Do some research on eye caps, lots of posts with info
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