Price Check and Reptile Expos

I've gained a lot of interest in ball pythons. Currently living overseas researching to prepare to own my first pet snake. What are the best reptile expos to buy ball pythons? Is it better to use debit or cash? Also whats a rough estimation on how much I'll spend on the morphs I'm interested in? I want to be prepared when the time comes.

ALBINO CLOWN/ALBINO LEOPARD
BANANA (SUPER)
BANANA BLADE
BANANA BUTTER ENCHI SPIDER
BANANA ENCHI CLOWN/BANANA CLOWN
BANANA ENCHI CINNAMON
BANANA ENCHI SPIDER CINNAMON
BANANA ENCHI YELLOW BELLY
BANANA FIRE PINSTRIPE
BANANA FIRE SPIDER
BANANA GHI
BANANA HET RED AXANTHIC
BANANA KILLER BEE
BANANA LEMON BLAST
BANANA MOCHI
BANANA MOJAVE PINSTRIPE
BANANA ORANGE DREAM
BANANA ORANGE DREAM YELLOW BELLY
BANANA PIED (ANY COMBO)
BANANA SPIDER MOJAVE
BLUE EYED LEUCISTIC
BUMBLE BEE PIED/BUMBLE BEE BELLY PIED
BUMBLE BEE TIGER
CHAMPAGNE ENCHI
CLOWN MORPH (ANY COMBO)
ENCHI CLOWN
ENCHI ORANGE DREAM
ENCHI ORANGE GHOST
KILLER CLOWN
ORANGE BURST
ORANGE DREAM (SUPER)
ORANGE DREAM BLADE
ORANGE DREAM BUMBLE BEE FIRE
ORANGE DREAM BUMBLE BEE FIRE YELLOW BELLY
ORANGE DREAM CALICO
ORANGE DREAM ENCHI YELLOW BELLY
ORANGE DREAM FIRE ENCHI YELLOW BELLY
ORANGE DREAM VANILLA
ORANGE DREAM VANILLA YELLOW BELLY
ORANGE DREAM (SUPER)
PANDA PIED
PIED BALL (ANY COMBO)
SCALELESS BALL PYTHON

Well, expos (none that I have been to) have debit so you will need to bring cash. Any expo will do really. They usually vary in size and who is going to be there so it is up to you to research the breeders who will be at that particular expo. And prices vary depending on location and the breeder. The best way to find out an estimation on price is to look up what other breeders sell them for.

And just because I saw it, the scaleless ball python is super rare and so far I believe only two breeders in the US have actually produced one... They are pretty much priceless right now.

I've been looking heavily at bananas and pieds while going to shows around Florida (and one in Colorado), plus looking online at kingsnake.

Super banana's I haven't seen at shows, but the few on classifieds I've seen are like 10k+. I imagine most of these hatched are holdbacks.
Banana's usually go for 200-300 for males and 500+ for females. That's single gene though. The common co-dom morphs add about 100 to the price and the more desireable is more like 100-200. So for those 3+ gene bananas you're looking at like 600+ for a male and 1k+ for a female, and that's on the low end.
Banana pieds I've seen a few for like 3-6k, one for like 15k because it was a paradox where you could see the normal pied colors and the banana pied colors.
Pieds are like 200 for males and 400 for females. If you're fine with the low whites you might be able to find something closer to 100/300. I did get a great deal at the last show in Tampa, FL for a 450ish gram female pied for 350. Bonus for me she eats anything and everything I put in front of her.
Panda pied I haven't seen for sale in person. Online it's probably like 8k+ for a panda pied. People sell the pairs to get panda pieds for like 2-3k and one is only a het for pied.
Scaleless I have zero clue. I'd be super nervous about it though. I've only seen one at a show so far and they had those grease markers for a 10k animal but the scaleless had a permanent sticker and it just said "$$$$$". I'm just not sure I could see if something was really missing a scale or just had an injury.

I forgot to answer the debit part. Everyone prefers cash, always. A lot of places take credit/debit, but it seems to be like 50/50. Or maybe most do but they would really rather you go to the atm to get the money or have the money already.

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Originally Posted by BCS

And just because I saw it, the scaleless ball python is super rare and so far I believe only two breeders in the US have actually produced one... They are pretty much priceless right now.

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I've seen a few on some breeder sites that are the het, but I think they're like 6.5k+ for a normal.

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Originally Posted by bks2100

I forgot to answer the debit part. Everyone prefers cash, always. A lot of places take credit/debit, but it seems to be like 50/50. Or maybe most do but they would really rather you go to the atm to get the money or have the money already.


I've seen a few on some breeder sites that are the het, but I think they're like 6.5k+ for a normal.

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Impossible... scaleless is not recessive and cannot have a het, it is a co-dom gene. Scaleless ball python is the super form of Scaleless head x Scaleless head.

Cash is king, always!

As far as the best expos Tinley in Chicago USA , Hamm Germany, Daytona USA (Also Daytona is not what is used to be)

A lot of things you are looking for will not be found at small shows.

As far as pricing because some are hard to find animal it would be even harder to price them.

Banana combos you are looking at $250 males to $900 females for 2 genes (dom or co-dom), Banana Pied $3000/$3500 Male.

The best thing for you to do to get an idea is to go on Kingsnake.com and price the animals you are looking for.

BEL $350$/500 depending on the BEL and sex

ALBINO CLOWN-2k
BANANA (SUPER)-10k
BANANA BLADE-1k
BANANA BUTTER ENCHI SPIDER-600-750
BANANA ENCHI CLOWN/BANANA CLOWN-5k-10k depending on enchi or no
BANANA ENCHI CINNAMON-500
BANANA ENCHI SPIDER CINNAMON-750
BANANA ENCHI YELLOW BELLY-400-600
BANANA FIRE PINSTRIPE-400-600
BANANA FIRE SPIDER-400-600
BANANA GHI-1k
BANANA HET RED AXANTHIC-300-400
BANANA KILLER BEE-550-700
BANANA LEMON BLAST-500
BANANA MOCHI-500
BANANA MOJAVE PINSTRIPE-750
BANANA ORANGE DREAM-750
BANANA ORANGE DREAM YELLOW BELLY-750-1k
BANANA PIED (ANY COMBO)-3k and up
BANANA SPIDER MOJAVE-750-1k
BLUE EYED LEUCISTIC-300-600
BUMBLE BEE PIED/BUMBLE BEE BELLY PIED-750 (tho would not be much difference than just a spied as spider pied is all white but head)
BUMBLE BEE TIGER-??
CHAMPAGNE ENCHI-600
CLOWN MORPH (ANY COMBO)-650 and up
ENCHI CLOWN-1500
ENCHI ORANGE DREAM-750 and up
ENCHI ORANGE GHOST-500-600
KILLER CLOWN-2k
ORANGE BURST-not sure
ORANGE DREAM (SUPER)-1500 and up
ORANGE DREAM BLADE-750-1500
ORANGE DREAM BUMBLE BEE FIRE-1-2k
ORANGE DREAM BUMBLE BEE FIRE YELLOW BELLY-1-2k
ORANGE DREAM CALICO-750
ORANGE DREAM ENCHI YELLOW BELLY-1k
ORANGE DREAM FIRE ENCHI YELLOW BELLY-1k
ORANGE DREAM VANILLA-500-750
ORANGE DREAM VANILLA YELLOW BELLY-1k
PANDA PIED-8-10k
PIED BALL (ANY COMBO)-300 and up
SCALELESS BALL PYTHON-45k and up

of course these are if you can find them prices and they will vairy so there it is
with that list tho i hope you make some good money cause there are some realy pricy snakes on it
best of luck finding them

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Originally Posted by BCS

Impossible... scaleless is not recessive and cannot have a het, it is a co-dom gene. Scaleless ball python is the super form of Scaleless head x Scaleless head.

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Sorry I was using my own terminology, I meant scaleless head, not scaleless het.