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  • 11-05-2015, 04:39 PM
    Aerithya
    Bedding?
    I'm getting a Mexican black kingsnake in a month and I'm wondering which is the best choice out of Zoo Med - Forest floor, Aspen and Zoo Med - Repti bark to use as a bedding in her glass tank and I'm wondering if Exo Terra - forest moss would be the best choice to use in her humid hide.
    I've read that Aspen bedding isn't the best choice due to humidity problems and well I haven't really found anything else informative, so I'm asking you experienced ones. :)
  • 11-05-2015, 05:22 PM
    Kris Mclaughlin
    We abandoned conventional bedding a few years back and went full on planted natural, fog n all. My tanks prettymuch maintain themselves except for pruning.

    But;

    Aspen sucks for humidity, but made for easy cleaning
    Cypress is awsome for humidity, but walks a fine line with being too moist.
    Eco earth is a good all arounder. A slight mix with proper moss and some cypress makes good bedding. Using it straight up, it may clog a vent. Stuffs very fine and molds when too moist.

    Most of these folks use the humid hide or container method. Seems to work out ok for them.


    I know im like the only natural guy here. But i hope the lil bit o memory scraping helped
  • 11-05-2015, 09:13 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Mexican King do not require high humidity, ambient humidity will be more than enough so aspen is a suitable substrate, personally for colubrids I prefer sanichips.
  • 11-05-2015, 09:21 PM
    Jhill001
    Re: Bedding?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kris Mclaughlin View Post
    We abandoned conventional bedding a few years back and went full on planted natural, fog n all. My tanks prettymuch maintain themselves except for pruning.

    But;

    Aspen sucks for humidity, but made for easy cleaning
    Cypress is awsome for humidity, but walks a fine line with being too moist.
    Eco earth is a good all arounder. A slight mix with proper moss and some cypress makes good bedding. Using it straight up, it may clog a vent. Stuffs very fine and molds when too moist.

    Most of these folks use the humid hide or container method. Seems to work out ok for them.


    I know im like the only natural guy here. But i hope the lil bit o memory scraping helped

    You're not the only one, there are dozens of us!
  • 11-06-2015, 02:39 AM
    Aerithya
    Re: Bedding?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kris Mclaughlin View Post
    We abandoned conventional bedding a few years back and went full on planted natural, fog n all. My tanks prettymuch maintain themselves except for pruning.

    But;

    Aspen sucks for humidity, but made for easy cleaning
    Cypress is awsome for humidity, but walks a fine line with being too moist.
    Eco earth is a good all arounder. A slight mix with proper moss and some cypress makes good bedding. Using it straight up, it may clog a vent. Stuffs very fine and molds when too moist.

    Most of these folks use the humid hide or container method. Seems to work out ok for them.


    I know im like the only natural guy here. But i hope the lil bit o memory scraping helped

    Okay, that cleared things up for me, thankies. :D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Mexican King do not require high humidity, ambient humidity will be more than enough so aspen is a suitable substrate, personally for colubrids I prefer sanichips.

    Ah, the person who I'm getting the king from just said she uses sanichips. :)
    She didn't know the hide sizes what she uses for her, and I thought about buying her two Exo Terra - Reptile cave M or L size.
    She weights 200g and is 80cm long and I assume she still grows, so what would be the best size in the long run?
  • 11-06-2015, 10:58 AM
    Prognathodon
    Re: Bedding?
    Hides should be sized for her current size, not what she'll grow into, and erring on the small size is not a problem - they like small, snug hides. Our corn snake that size has one hide that's 3.5" X 5"; and one that's 6" x 6", which is big for him.


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  • 11-06-2015, 11:05 AM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: Bedding?
    I use sani-chips for my snakes as well. Like the others have said kings don't require high humidity and it's easy to clean.

    http://www.pet360.com/product/9215/n...4-0050569406b5
  • 11-06-2015, 11:19 AM
    Aerithya
    Re: Bedding?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prognathodon View Post
    Hides should be sized for her current size, not what she'll grow into, and erring on the small size is not a problem - they like small, snug hides. Our corn snake that size has one hide that's 3.5" X 5"; and one that's 6" x 6", which is big for him.


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    I understand but too big of a hide wouldn't be a problem, if it were too big I could stuff the hide with something to make it small enough for her and when it gets too small, I can take out whatever I put in the hide to make it big enough for her. :)
    A good money saver and I wouldn't have to store up useless hides.

    But thanks for the measurements, I know what to buy now!


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    I use sani-chips for my snakes as well. Like the others have said kings don't require high humidity and it's easy to clean.

    http://www.pet360.com/product/9215/n...4-0050569406b5

    Thanks! Looks like the same stuff as this one https://www.karkkainen.com/verkkokau...6-20-l-kuivike
  • 11-06-2015, 11:51 PM
    Jhill001
    Your idea of stuffing a too large hide with something like frog moss or something to make it se more snug is what I do. Most commercially available hides other than cork bark flats are much too large height wise for small snakes imo.
  • 11-07-2015, 03:53 AM
    Aerithya
    Well good, I'm not the only one. :D
    Yeah, I don't have cork flats, just those reptile caves as a hide.
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