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  • 12-14-2004, 09:47 PM
    hhw
    Morph King Reptile just hatched out a leucistic from a mojave x mojave breeding!!! Bah, I was planning on getting a mojave in the next few years, more because I like the looks of mojaves myself. However, I guess that won't be happening for many years to come now!!!

    [edit]Whoops, I meant to say codominant in the title!!![/edit]
  • 12-14-2004, 09:49 PM
    sk8er4life
    Hey bp babe448
    oh man i guess im goin to have 2 get me some mojaves or fireballs which ever is cheaper!
  • 12-14-2004, 09:58 PM
    Shaun J
    Mojaves are generally cheaper,but after this,they will probably skyrocket!What is the difference between dominant and co-dominant?
  • 12-14-2004, 10:08 PM
    hhw
    Dominant means the homozygous mutant and the heterozygous mutant are identical (e.g. spiders). However, it's difficult to prove a gene to be for certain dominant, since you might just be getting bad odds. You have to breed a homoygous to several normals and get 100% morph offspring to be certain. To date actually, nobody has proven a homozygous spider.

    A co-dominant gene on the other hand is where the heterozygous form and the homozygous form are completely different (like mojave and leucistic).

    The pastel gene on the other hand is actually incomplete dominant rather than codominant... which is when the heterozygous form is an intermediate between the normal and the homozygous morph i.e. a pastel is basically just part way between a normal and a super pastel. Although for the purposes of the herp industry, the subtle difference between incomplete dominant and codominant isn't really important and it's easier to just call them all co-dominant since it's shorter.
  • 12-14-2004, 10:10 PM
    Kara
    Now it will be interesting to see what happens when one of these Leucies is bred to a normal. Wonder what it will produce? Or if there's even yet another form from Mojave x Mojave that nobody's hit yet. The future certainly is bright!

    K
  • 12-14-2004, 10:13 PM
    sk8er4life
    The future is very unpredictable, i wonder what the next new morphs will be?????
  • 12-14-2004, 10:23 PM
    Shaun J
    What is their website?
  • 12-15-2004, 08:49 AM
    BallPythonBabe448
  • 12-15-2004, 09:35 AM
    RandyRemington
    "Now it will be interesting to see what happens when one of these Leucies is bred to a normal. Wonder what it will produce?"

    I agree. I'm especially interested in seeing what the cross line ones like the lesser X phantom and lesser X mojave produce. Will the two parent lines be easily distinguishable in the offspring? Presumably they shouldn't produce any normals but of course it will be nice to have actual breeding results to back that up.

    So what did your female leucistic produce? Someone posted show info that it might have been bred to a spider so I guess that might complicate the results a little. There weren't any normal babies where there? Looking past the spider gene where there only one type of baby or where there two (maybe mom was a cross of different types of hets)? Did any of the babies seem to match with known or suspected het leucistics (fireball, high yellow lemon, lesser, mojave, phantom, butter, or yellow belly)?

    Is there any public information on the offspring of Peter Kahl's female leucistic or the "Snoopy" male leucistic? Vin Russo's site indicates his first male leucistc was breeding this year also but I didn't see any results for it posted either. So there should be at least 4 leucistics that have breed so far (Kahl, NERD, Snoopy, Russo) and we don't have results available for any of them.
  • 12-15-2004, 10:10 AM
    Schlyne
    I think you're forgetting Ralph Davis. www.ralphdavisreptiles.com

    He is one of the few breeders I know of that has the blue eyed leucistic.
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