A bunch of "what are these"

A bunch of snakes I have which I need IDing:

1) Spider? Fire Spider? 1500 grams

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pss2mfjyjs.jpg

2) Fire spider? 1600 grams


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psinjl4hql.jpg

3) Firefly? Super pastel? Superfly? 1200 grams. I think firefly?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps8m8zatti.jpg

4) Soul sucker yellowbelly? Soul sucker Spotnose? I know it is soul sucker plus something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psdigh9xdr.jpg

5) This is either a three gene or four gene snake. I know it has desert and leopard in it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psjwfac9rw.jpg

6) And finally, the one I have already asked about before. Will try to prove out whatever the craziness is, but what else is in it? Parents were fire bee x superpastel het g stripe.

So it has for sure spider, 50% het g stripe, at least 1 pastel. What else?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psfhnkiyuv.jpg

I can't take guesses, but I just want to say that I love the last one. O__O Amazing.

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

I can't take guesses, but I just want to say that I love the last one. O__O Amazing.

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I second this!! What a gorgeous babe! What did you pick up these guys as?

So the first I would say is spider, number two does have a very reduced pattern could be fire but my guess would be enchi and not fire making it a stinger, the leopard most likely has Mojave, and the soul sucker may have yellowbelly, that gets difficult, and the last I see spider pastel and fire in the parodox marking you can see what looks firefly ESC. But this is all speculation and can't be proved unless breeding takes place. Awesome animals on all of them

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Originally Posted by hungba

A bunch of snakes I have which I need IDing:

1) Spider? Fire Spider? 1500 grams

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pss2mfjyjs.jpg

2) Fire spider? 1600 grams


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psinjl4hql.jpg

3) Firefly? Super pastel? Superfly? 1200 grams. I think firefly?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps8m8zatti.jpg

4) Soul sucker yellowbelly? Soul sucker Spotnose? I know it is soul sucker plus something.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psdigh9xdr.jpg

5) This is either a three gene or four gene snake. I know it has desert and leopard in it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psjwfac9rw.jpg

6) And finally, the one I have already asked about before. Will try to prove out whatever the craziness is, but what else is in it? Parents were fire bee x superpastel het g stripe.

So it has for sure spider, 50% het g stripe, at least 1 pastel. What else?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psfhnkiyuv.jpg

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First off, what were the pairings that created these snakes? Do you have any background?
Number 1 looks like a standard spider to me.
Number 2 may be a fire spider but looks more like a reduced pattern regular spider to me.
Number 3 firefly.
I do not see yellowbelly or spotnose in your soul sucker. Looks like a standard soul sucker to me.
Number 5. Lesser desert leopard. If you would not have mentioned the desert gene I would have just guessed it was a pretty lesser leopard
Number 6. I would guess enchi fire bee with paradox markings.

Ok thanks guys,

Here are information about the pairings which created these snakes, where available (not all I produced).

1 and 2 are siblings, from fire bee x lesser het recessive banded. There is no enchi in there. I tend to think that 1 is spider and 2 is fire spider. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO TELL? I have problems identifying fire in many of my snakes(this is a recurring problem for me). People speak of reduced head pattern and general pattern, as well as a golden hue in a fire spider. I can't see it. Examples would be nice.

3 was from fire bee x super pastel. How do you tell the difference between superpastels and fireflys? What to look for?

4 and 5 were not produced by me. So I do not know the pairings. I do know the limited info I have is correct.

6 was from fire bee x super pastel het g stripe. Sibling of number 3. Again there is no enchi there, and I think it isn't just paradox markings. It may be a recessive something new. From calculation, there is at least 1 pastel, spider. Again, how to see fire? I have been suggested there is no super pastel because of the dark head.

Given this info, what are they? And how to tell?

I would like to add, is it possible to tell me what to look for as well as what you think they are? Especially regarding the fire gene. I have a hard time seeing it unless its like vanilla cream or some mixture that turns out very different.

Well the fire gene tends to brighten over time and definitely makes things pop brighter, a little cleaning up of pattern seems to be reaccuring in most fire combos "less Browning and flaking, when added to brightener genes such as pastel" fire and spider have also been difficult for me to distinguish when combined as apposed to single gene spider. Breed it to another fire if you get a bel you'll know.

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Sounds interesting G

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Number 1 looks like a standard spider to me.
Number 2 may be a fire spider but looks more like a reduced pattern regular spider to me.
Number 3 firefly.
Number 5. Lesser desert leopard. If you would not have mentioned the desert gene I would have just guessed it was a pretty lesser leopard

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^ those were might exact thoughts. The ones missing from the above quote i really cant even guess.