BEL ID Help

Dad is a Hypo Butter Enchi, and mom is a Russo (het. leucistic)

Can anyone see enchi in any of these three?

#1

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00446.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00447.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00445.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00459.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00458.jpg

#2

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00456.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00455.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00451.jpg

#3

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00452.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00454.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00453.jpg

#4

Not a BEL, but I didn't wan't to leave the lil' guy out. Still very pretty in orange and black!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00449.jpg http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6/DSC00448.jpg

I'm not familiar with bel's at all, but I'm seeing hints of pattern on the backs of 1 & 2 that I haven't seen in other bels.

Try using a black light to see any hidden patterns!

x2 on the black light, you'd be surprised what can pop up under a black light!

Blacklight x3. Gonna need to enlist the help of a different light spectrum to get a peek at any genes hiding in the fields of white!

No black light needed. Here is an email conversation I had with another breeder a couple years ago (names excluded to protect the parties).
Hi,



Hello. My name is and I was wondering if you would be so kind as to answer a couple questions I have about a ball morph you first produced in 2011, the super mojave enchi? Looking at the photos, it looks like the enchi makes the white on the snake more yellowish and I think I can see a little pattern in the body. Is this how you identified the enchi in the animal?



Exactly, the presents of the pattern is the give away, the yellowing comes more apparent as the animal matures. The head also does not grey out like normal super Mojaves do.



Photos can be tricky sometimes is there anything else you used to id the animal as opposed to a super mojave without the enchi gene?



No, what you have all ready determined is what we look for.




Also, what pairing did you use to produce the morph? I am working on a super mojave enchi project and plan to pair my mojave enchi with my mojave this year so I am looking for pointers on the goal morph.


I originally did the exact pairing you are going to use and then this past season I used an actual enchi super mojave to a mojave breeding and produced 6 of the enchi super mojave animals.



I thank you in advance for your help.



Your welcome and good luck with your project

I tried a black light, and didn't see anything different that I couldn't see under normal light. I looked at the video of the super mojave enchis. I could see the difference in them, but mine are butter/russo bel's instead. I can't even find other people's pictures of butter/russo bel's for comparison.

I've heard of people putting a picture of a BEL in a photo editing program and increasing the saturation a whole bunch to look for hidden patterns. I'm not sure if it works, but it might be worth a try.