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  • 09-13-2015, 09:23 AM
    rlditmars
    Clutch #2 Results post shed
    Well here are a couple pics of our second clutch which was Vanilla X Fire. The results are 1.3 with two normal and two morphs. Both of the morphs are female. The questions is are they Fire or Vanilla? I think they are both the same and I am leaning towards Fire, but I'd appreciate any input from those with much more experience then I....wink, wink, nudge, nudge, Gale.

    Thanks in advance for any help and thanks for looking

    Whole clutch
    [IMG]http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...psppl0kzns.jpg[/IMG]

    Female #1
    [IMG]http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...pshuksfijs.jpg[/IMG]

    Female #2
    [IMG]http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6rqsa9d9.jpg[/IMG]
  • 09-13-2015, 10:33 AM
    BCS
    I agree on them being fires.
  • 09-14-2015, 01:16 AM
    darkranger69
    i see fire on left but the other could be vanilla. pictures of parents will help a lot
  • 09-14-2015, 07:14 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkranger69 View Post
    i see fire on left but the other could be vanilla. pictures of parents will help a lot

    The female is deep in shed right now but as soon as she finishes I will take a side by side photo of them. I posted this thread of the parents when I first paired them.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ghlight=creamy

    The first photo has the male Fire on the left and the female Vanilla on the right. About 7 or 8 posts further down the thread is a side by side picture, but the female is glowing as she hadn't ovulated yet so it isn't really a fair comparison.
  • 09-14-2015, 06:44 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed
    Here is a photo I shot today as the female just finished shedding. 0.1 Vanilla on the left and 1.0 Fire on the right. Again, I appreciate anyone's input who has some experience with both morphs.

    [IMG]http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...psw9eotnqv.jpg[/IMG]
  • 09-14-2015, 08:06 PM
    Reinz
    Regardless, you have some pretty snakes there Riditmars! :)

    Congrats!
  • 09-14-2015, 09:52 PM
    BumbleB
    So hard to tell the difference I'm pretty scared of not being able to tell the difference when I breed my vanilla cream this year
  • 09-14-2015, 09:57 PM
    Kibbleswhites
    I am leaning toward two vanillas actually:O
  • 09-14-2015, 10:39 PM
    darkranger69
    after seeing the parents pictures, i change my opinion: fire on right, vanilla on left
  • 09-15-2015, 08:14 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Regardless, you have some pretty snakes there Riditmars! :)

    Congrats!

    Thank you

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BumbleB View Post
    So hard to tell the difference I'm pretty scared of not being able to tell the difference when I breed my vanilla cream this year

    I just don't want to mislead anyone when I sell them. Value wise they are equals, but from a breeding plan scenario they are night and day. I may have to let them grow up a little.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kibbleswhites View Post
    I am leaning toward two vanillas actually:O

    You may be right. They seem to be getting a little more golden colored since they shed.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkranger69 View Post
    after seeing the parents pictures, i change my opinion: fire on right, vanilla on left

    You're not really helping. LOL No, I appreciate your opinion but that is what I am struggling with. I keep going back and forth.
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