Ok, now I am confused

Hey everyone I just watched an episode of snake bites tv with Brian from BHB,

at 11.00 minutes in he holds a Super Pastel Leopard het. for Pied, nothing confusing her but here it comes.

He says something like, all Leopards are linked to the pied and that all Leopards are actually het. Pied??

I thought this was proven wrong a while ago already? or am I wrong? or maybe I misunderstand what he is saying?

here's the link to the youtube movie

https://youtu.be/vi9-supcLzw

please help me get my head on straight again :)

there are a couple who have claimed to have proven out super leopards that are not pieds. If that is the case then obviously not all leopards are het pied.

I haven't heard any new info or even seen picture of these animals (yes i do remember emailing the breeders making these claims and no response) but assuming this is true then leopard would be a simple dominant trait. Given how often leopards are actually het pied, it would be reasonable to assume that leopard and pied are closely linked.

my bad explaination would be, when baby snakes are getting their genes, strands of a chromosome are ripped at random spots and the baby gets some form mom and some from dad, if 2 genes are close to each other on a choromosome, they will more than likely get be on the same strand unless the random spot happen to be between the 2 genes and also one of the stands comes from mom and another comes from dad. closer the genes are together the less of a chance of separating them.

so to make it real simple.

If I would get a Piebald male and breed it to me Leopard female I could get piebalds?

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Originally Posted by ARBallMorphs

so to make it real simple.

If I would get a Piebald male and breed it to me Leopard female I could get piebalds?

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I'm hesitant to reply because I don't want to add to your confusion, butbto answer the above question, no. There are leopards het poed. If they were linked, I would have thought they would produce pieds.... "Linked" could mean several things that has yet to be specified thus far...

ok thanks.

what Brian said in that youtube vid was, "all Leopards are actually het. pied"

and that is where my confusion came from, thanks again

This might shed some more light for you http://jkrballstreetjournal.com/2014...0-het-piebald/

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Originally Posted by Deborah

This might shed some more light for you http://jkrballstreetjournal.com/2014...0-het-piebald/

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*bookmarked*

Thanks Deb :gj:!

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Originally Posted by Deborah

This might shed some more light for you http://jkrballstreetjournal.com/2014...0-het-piebald/

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Thanks, that was certainly helpful! And I was right to believe the theory was proven incorrect. But I still wonder how come Brain would say that what he said in that youtube clip because I find it hard to believe that Brian from BHB isn't up to date about that, right?

I thought they worked on the same allel with both genes making a pied looking animal, kind of like fire and and a Mojave, they both make a white snake but if you breed a fire to Mojave you will not get a white snake, if that's the case then technically Brian would be correct they are all HET for a pied looking animal. The leopard gene seems to have a stronger HET marker then the pied. If there was a super leopard why would they not be blasting the internet with pics or trying to get their name on WOB as the first to make it. that's just my opinion though.

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Originally Posted by Aztec4mia

I thought they worked on the same allel with both genes making a pied looking animal, kind of like fire and and a Mojave, they both make a white snake but if you breed a fire to Mojave you will not get a white snake, if that's the case then technically Brian would be correct they are all HET for a pied looking animal.The leopard gene seems to have a stronger HET marker then the pied.

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If what is claimed is true, Leopard does not make pied animals, read the link above. It is just a simple dominant trait. Also Mojave and fire have nothing to do with each other. Completely different loci.

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Originally Posted by Aztec4mia

If there was a super leopard why would they not be blasting the internet with pics or trying to get their name on WOB as the first to make it. that's just my opinion though.

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The claim is super leopard looks like a leopard. I think more people are realizing what a joke wobp has become. Facebook probably has more morphs than wobp.