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  • 04-21-2015, 05:38 PM
    Shaksy_Green
    Dried out eggs, help to save
    On the 30-th of March my ball python Pastel female gave a lovely clutch of 6 nice eggs.
    For 2 weeks they stayed in the snake rack (maternal incubation) and then I took them off and put in the incubator.
    I've chosen substrate & humidity incorrect, so after 3-5 days I've checked the incubator & found that all eggs are dried out & look badly.
    I've put more water in sfagnum (I steel can't find any perlite or vermiculite) & on the 2-d or 3-d day after disaster checked eggs again and found some changes on the back side.
    Temperature is between 28-30 degrees C, can't check the humidity.

    Will be thankful for any advice.

    And sorry if any mistakes.

    http://static.diary.ru/userdir/1/4/6...1/82835709.jpg

    http://static.diary.ru/userdir/1/4/6...1/82835708.jpg
  • 04-21-2015, 06:01 PM
    bcr229
    I don't know if those eggs are too far gone to save or not.

    I do substrateless incubation, it's pretty much fool-proof since the eggs don't sit in the wet media.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ess-incubation
  • 04-21-2015, 06:20 PM
    Daigga
    Do they still candle? They look pretty far gone...
  • 04-21-2015, 06:58 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    I am not gonna lie they are in very bad shape for eggs that are only 23 days old so my first question would be have you been candling them?

    Quote:

    can't check the humidity.
    That is you main issue right here, if you can't or don't know what your humidity is it's gonna be very hard for you to provide adequate environment for eggs, now and in the future.

    Do you have a lid on you egg box or is it open like this in the incubator?
  • 04-21-2015, 08:09 PM
    bondo
    Are the eggs still soft? There is a chance you can save them yet if they are soft and still candle veins. Moss will not work. Since you have no access to vermiculite or perlite you will need to get a light diffuser and gravel, small stones or aquarium gravel to put under the diffuser. It will hold the diffuser up and prevent water from sloshing around. Do this in a tub with a cover and do not put holes in the tub. Just open the tub once a week to allow some air in. If they survive then when it comes close to hatching time you can put in a couple holes. Good luck.
  • 04-21-2015, 09:40 PM
    Adam Chandler
    Re: Dried out eggs, help to save
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I don't know if those eggs are too far gone to save or not.

    I do substrateless incubation, it's pretty much fool-proof since the eggs don't sit in the wet media.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ess-incubation

    This. The substrateless method is the way to go. You can get light diffuser at Home Depot.

    Home Depot may also sell 6 qrt. Sterlite shoe boxes, if not somewhere like Walmart or Target will.

    Grab some Glad Press n' Seal as well and you'll have a excellent incubation box on your hands.
  • 04-22-2015, 05:39 AM
    Shaksy_Green
    First I wanna thank everybody for help, comments and advice.
    Then I should say that I'm from Moscow Russia, and it's not an easy task to find the correct termoregulation stuff here for a normal price, but anyway I've urgently ordered something sutable & waiting for all the techniks in the nearest 1-2 days (it's termohydrometer & termoregulator - hope I've rote the names correclty).
    The clutch gone so bad for last 2-3 days. Eggs are still soft & I've candled them - there are veins.
    I Think I should show my so called incubator

    https://pp.vk.me/c617328/v617328628/...RajrvM6zIk.jpg

    https://pp.vk.me/c617328/v617328628/...L7qRf_q3TE.jpg


    https://pp.vk.me/c617328/v617328628/...E5mUPNFYh8.jpg

    That's how it looked like last year when I get my first ball python clutch ever. Then the thermoregulator was broken & I've made a huge mistake when didn't buy another one
  • 04-22-2015, 12:01 PM
    bcr229
    Humidity issues aside, without a thermostat (thermoregulator) you probably got the eggs too hot for survival.
  • 04-22-2015, 04:41 PM
    Shaksy_Green
    So I've checked the humidity and checked the temperature again with this system
    http://zoocomplex.com.ua/img/tovar/3.../post_2685.jpg

    Humidity is 73-74%, temperature 30-32 degrees.

    Three eggs have died, 3, I hope, have chances.
    Bought perlite & vermiculite, can try to continue with them or using substrateless method
  • 04-22-2015, 04:44 PM
    Shaksy_Green
    Need some more advice about the continuing: why do you think this or that type of incubation will be more sutable in my situation?
    Right now try to make a substrateless. Waiting for your answer.
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