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  • 03-12-2015, 08:57 PM
    Elev8r
    Do snakes live a better life in a tub system?
    As a new BP owner, I'm looking to get rid of my glass tank and upgrade to a T8 or T10. But in doing my research and talking with some people with a lot more experience (who I greatly respect) they all use tubs. So I guess my questions are these: 1) How much space do BPs need? 2) Are BPs better off in tubs? 3) Am I selfish if I get a T8(or 10) because I like to look at my snake in his environment?
  • 03-12-2015, 09:23 PM
    Daigga
    Re: Do snakes live a better life in a tub system?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elev8r View Post
    As a new BP owner, I'm looking to get rid of my glass tank and upgrade to a T8 or T10. But in doing my research and talking with some people with a lot more experience (who I greatly respect) they all use tubs. So I guess my questions are these: 1) How much space do BPs need? 2) Are BPs better off in tubs? 3) Am I selfish if I get a T8(or 10) because I like to look at my snake in his environment?

    1) A 40 gallon breeder tank or a 41 qt tub is what I've heard recommended for an adult BP
    2) I don't think it matters. A well maintained environment is a well maintained environment no matter how you look at it. I think most keepers (myself included) use tubs because with multiple snakes tanks just don't work. I had a table set up in my snake room with 3 10 gallons and 2 20's, it was a massive endeavor to keep all those tanks heated and clean, and the tubs take up so much less space.
    3) You only have one? You can pretty up a T8 and your snake will be just as happy in it versus a tub. When I had just one (who is still in his tank), it was a display. A lovely and eye-catching display simply can't be matched by a tub on a shelf, if you ask me.
  • 03-12-2015, 09:27 PM
    nightrainfalls
    Re: Do snakes live a better life in a tub system?
    Kudos on getting rid of the glass tank. They are a husbandry nightmare.

    Balls don't need much space at all, in fact they are frequently found balled up in the tiniest space available.

    Tubs are opaque so privacy loving BP's are usually at home in them, but most breeders use stackable tubs and rack systems to save on space.

    You are not selfish, you love your animal. Go ahead and get the T8 or T10. Just make sure it has plenty of hides and clutter for your secretive BP.

    David
  • 03-12-2015, 09:51 PM
    tbowman
    If done right, Ball Pythons can thrive in any of the three setups mentioned.

    It comes down to how much work is required to make the conditions right. This is the order that I would put them in as far as difficulty when it comes to upkeep. The top being the simplest and bottom being the most difficult.

    1. Tub / Rack system
    2. PVC enclosure
    3. Glass

    A tub will require the least amount of work and IMO probably be the most stable (ONLY IF THE ROOM is consistently kept on the warmer side. 75 - 80 degrees, probably not the most realistic choice for somebody with just one snake). Very easy to keep stress at a minimum with these setups as well.

    PVC will retain heat and humidity very well compared to the glass enclosure, glass would be my last choice.
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