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Python begging?

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  • 02-27-2015, 10:18 AM
    SCWood
    Python begging?
    Is that a thing? I went into the tanks to change water and my normal, Eden, instantly popped her head out and watched me, then crawled out of her house and watched me intently. She just ate a few days ago, so it can't be hunger, right?

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  • 02-27-2015, 10:21 AM
    C2tcardin
    Snakes in general are opportunistic feeders so they are always looking for a meal, I don't think they feel hunger the same way we do.
  • 02-27-2015, 10:34 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Python begging?
    Pythons and all snakes don't have ears but they sense the smallest vibrations through their sensitive underbellys, ventral scales. They can sense changes in air currents and temperature changes through the facial pits when it comes to pythons and pit vipers. So sure, she was investigating the changes. Also depending on what she had for her last meal she certainly could be shopping for another meal. Enjoy. A.C.
  • 02-27-2015, 10:54 AM
    kitedemon
    A.C. depends on how you define ear, but you are absolutely correct. You might be interested in this ,
    http://jeb.biologists.org/content/215/2/331.abstract

    OP in my experience the behaviour in a royal is not food oriented, the snake is not in it is feeding 'mode' but rather is just curious.

    Reading a snakes behaviour is very complex. Feeding behaviour is usually associated with rapid tong flicks and S curved and jerky movements, the mark of tension, the preparedness of a strike. Tense like a coiled spring.

    My personal snakes I have a few if I enter the enclosure and do something (replace water bowls for example) they immediately come out to explore what is different and see what is going on so to speak. This behaviour is tongue flicks but not as rapid and a easy calm exploration gentle slow movements with liquid like precision.

    Royals and more generally many snakes are very curious animals, and will explore new objects and different smells. I have a combination of enclosure systems, racks, commercial enclosures, tanks (side turned), and custom designed enclosures. I have found this type of inquisitive behaviour tends to be associated with enclosure systems that are more open and have more 'stuff' in them. This seems promote investigation, personally I rotate my snakes in and out of the rack and I find they become more alert and better feeders when in enclosures. I don't think every royal keeper sees this behaviour because some enclosure systems do not promote it.
  • 02-27-2015, 11:34 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Python begging?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    A.C. depends on how you define ear, but you are absolutely correct. You might be interested in this ,
    http://jeb.biologists.org/content/215/2/331.abstract

    OP in my experience the behaviour in a royal is not food oriented, the snake is not in it is feeding 'mode' but rather is just curious.

    Reading a snakes behaviour is very complex. Feeding behaviour is usually associated with rapid tong flicks and S curved and jerky movements, the mark of tension, the preparedness of a strike. Tense like a coiled spring.

    My personal snakes I have a few if I enter the enclosure and do something (replace water bowls for example) they immediately come out to explore what is different and see what is going on so to speak. This behaviour is tongue flicks but not as rapid and a easy calm exploration gentle slow movements with liquid like precision.

    Royals and more generally many snakes are very curious animals, and will explore new objects and different smells. I have a combination of enclosure systems, racks, commercial enclosures, tanks (side turned), and custom designed enclosures. I have found this type of inquisitive behaviour tends to be associated with enclosure systems that are more open and have more 'stuff' in them. This seems promote investigation, personally I rotate my snakes in and out of the rack and I find they become more alert and better feeders when in enclosures. I don't think every royal keeper sees this behaviour because some enclosure systems do not promote it.

    Thanks kitedemon. Appreciate that. :bow:
  • 02-27-2015, 11:46 AM
    kitedemon
    It is an interesting read.
  • 02-27-2015, 01:46 PM
    Cumminsman
    Re: Python begging?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    A.C. depends on how you define ear, but you are absolutely correct. You might be interested in this ,
    http://jeb.biologists.org/content/215/2/331.abstract

    OP in my experience the behaviour in a royal is not food oriented, the snake is not in it is feeding 'mode' but rather is just curious.

    Reading a snakes behaviour is very complex. Feeding behaviour is usually associated with rapid tong flicks and S curved and jerky movements, the mark of tension, the preparedness of a strike. Tense like a coiled spring.

    My personal snakes I have a few if I enter the enclosure and do something (replace water bowls for example) they immediately come out to explore what is different and see what is going on so to speak. This behaviour is tongue flicks but not as rapid and a easy calm exploration gentle slow movements with liquid like precision.

    Royals and more generally many snakes are very curious animals, and will explore new objects and different smells. I have a combination of enclosure systems, racks, commercial enclosures, tanks (side turned), and custom designed enclosures. I have found this type of inquisitive behaviour tends to be associated with enclosure systems that are more open and have more 'stuff' in them. This seems promote investigation, personally I rotate my snakes in and out of the rack and I find they become more alert and better feeders when in enclosures. I don't think every royal keeper sees this behaviour because some enclosure systems do not promote it.

    Could you share pics of your "side turned" tanks? I am building a enclosure using two 55 gallon tanks on their side and I'm curios of how others have done this.



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  • 02-27-2015, 03:46 PM
    MarkyMcFly
    Re: Python begging?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cumminsman View Post
    Could you share pics of your "side turned" tanks? I am building a enclosure using two 55 gallon tanks on their side and I'm curios of how others have done this.



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    Yes, i would love to see some good DIY's on this
  • 02-27-2015, 05:58 PM
    kitedemon
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...arium+solution

    I have done quite a number now, and graduated to a laser cut version, they are better than this first one in looks but they all work quite well. I own visions, sly plastics, powerhouse, and an AP. I think I like the tank over all of them, it is quite good in all respects.

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