Need a bit of help.

Hello all,

I'm new to the forum and I need a bit of help identifying this wonderful male I have.

Face:
http://i.imgur.com/Em77sYZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U2nL1VK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XDXGTiH.jpg


Back
http://i.imgur.com/AWU2qKL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uyaUySr.jpg

Belly:
http://i.imgur.com/9pGVOWl.jpg

Sides:
http://i.imgur.com/TDZoOUC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WAVzOVI.jpg
(he was getting restless at this point, Cant say I blame him)

He moves unlike any of my other ball pythons periodicly:
http://i.imgur.com/79kkB9x.jpg


Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

Morphs isn't my strong point but I would assume that is a spider? But I would not take my word for it.

Gorgeous BP though, Welcome to BP.net [emoji106]

Looks like a spider to me. Nice looking spider thoughXD:gj:

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Originally Posted by Sirensong26

Looks like a spider to me. Nice looking spider thoughXD:gj:

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That's what I thought as well but one of the breeders I know suggested he might be pinstripe mixed with something.

Could he be a Vanilla
+Spider?

Looks like a standard spider, but a nice light one. My male is almost identical :gj:.

Looks like a nice spider to me, I like the solid stripe down the back he has going on. No pinstripe happening here, doesn't look like any vanilla either.

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Originally Posted by Royalwolf

He moves unlike any of my other ball pythons periodicly

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That is due to the "wobble" that the spider gene carries. Spiders have a slight neurological issue. Some wobbles aren't so bad, and the snake may only show it once in a while. But some wobbles are so bad that the snake will twist and writhe and corkscrew uncontrollably, causing the snake to not even be able to eat. If the wobble effects the quality of the snakes life it is normally euthanized.




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Originally Posted by Ballpythoncrazy

That is due to the "wobble" that the spider gene carries. Spiders have a slight neurological issue. Some wobbles aren't so bad, and the snake may only show it once in a while. But some wobbles are so bad that the snake will twist and writhe and corkscrew uncontrollably, causing the snake to not even be able to eat. If the wobble effects the quality of the snakes life it is normally euthanized.




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He seems to only do it when hes bored though, when hes moving around on my bed or when im feeding him hes fine, and doesn't even have the slightest wobble.

Very nice fully striped spider. If I ever broke down and got a spider, I'd want one just like him. Nothing else would do. All spiders and spider combos carry the wobble, it cannot be bred out or crossed out by mixing with other genes. Some do it so infrequently it is almost unnoticeable, others have it so badly they cannot function. Some only hold their head slightly tilted, others can barely hold themselves upright.

If you do a search of the forums here, there are lots of threads on the wobble and other spider quirks from people who have them. For most people it is a non-issue, but there are a few who really disapprove of breeding spiders because of this issue. Myself, I don't mind if other people breed them and enjoy them, even my husband has one he breeds, but I personally will never breed one because of the possibility of severe cases of wobble where the baby had to be culled.

Gale