Wobble Gene

How do you guys/gals feel about Bumblebees and Spiders? I purchased a baby Bumblebee male last weekend, but I was completely unaware that all Bumblebees and Spiders carry the "wobble" gene...I wouldn't have purchased it if I had better educated myself. Thanx for any input...

It's something that can get personal for some people. Some think it's "cute". Some are turned off by it. Personally, if it doesn't impact their ability to eat, drink, eliminate, or otherwise function normally (and it usually doesn't), I don't have any issues with it.

For your further education, here is a good place to learn more about other issues that are morph-related: http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Enki40

I wouldn't have purchased it if I had better educated myself. Thanx for any input,,,,

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Why? There is nothing wrong as long as the snake is feeding without any issues.

Just a personal preference. I like animals that are true to form...movements, temperament, structure, etc. I watched how he moves in comparison to my normal bp....I can see a difference....jmo.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

It's something that can get personal for some people. Some think it's "cute". Some are turned off by it. Personally, if it doesn't impact their ability to eat, drink, eliminate, or otherwise function normally (and it usually doesn't), I don't have any issues with it.

For your further education, here is a good place to learn more about other issues that are morph-related: http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php. Enjoy!

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Agreed :gj:! It's definitely down to opinion. When I first bought my spider, I knew they had wobbles, but I didn't know I'd be so freaked out by it when I saw it in person. My spider boy is one of my better feeders, and he's a great snake to handle for first timers who want to see a snake. If I were to end up selling my collection, he would definitely be a holdback.

Spiders/combos are my favorite morph and I don't care as long as my Spider combo looks better than your snake :P

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Originally Posted by Ransack

Spiders/combos are my favorite morph and I don't care as long as my Spider combo looks better than your snake :P

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Hey! I resemble that remark!
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I have two spider females, a cinnabee female, a killer bee male, a spider mojave female and a bumble bee female. Only the cinnabee has any wobble. Regardless. I love what the spider gene does on its own and in combos and I will continue to work with this morph.

It's worth it to note that the very first snake retrieved from the wild as an adult had a wobble, but that didn't meaningfully impact his ability to hunt and feed for himself or otherwise function as a normal snake until humans intervened. When I first heard about the wobble and found some videos on line, I thought I would be turned off by it, but turns out I just love the morph and its combos way too much.

That said, when I get into breeding, I am going to be VERY selective about which snakes I purchase, hold back, and pair up. To my knowledge everyone has just accepted it as 'a thing' and no one has attemted to see if careful line breeding could reduce or eliminate the effect. I want f it's possible to produce snakes with little to no wobble. Who knows, maybe I'll be the first to produce a low to wobbless line ;)

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Originally Posted by pmarks

I have two spider females, a cinnabee female, a killer bee male, a spider mojave female and a bumble bee female. Only the cinnabee has any wobble. Regardless. I love what the spider gene does on its own and in combos and I will continue to work with this morph.

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I am going to quote this post, because I have six snakes with the spider gene in my collection and only have one snake that shows a hint of wobble, (Spinner male) he is a voracious eater and is fun and inquisitive and is my sons favorite snake.

The point I am trying to make with this is it does exist but is very overblown in my opinion with some people even having an agenda.