Pastel vs Fire

Apparently I still have trouble telling them apart. For really obvious examples of the morphs it's easy, but not every snake is a good example of its morph! A snake I think looks like a pastel is just a really blushed out fire? That one looks like a fire to me, but turns out it's a browned out pastel with a lot of flames??? Is there some really obvious way to tell them apart that I'm missing, or is this something that comes down to experience?

pastels always have "brown out" lines, even really nice examples have darker yellows and lighter yellows in the alien heads. the fires and vanillas are just a lighter brown instead of the pastel "yellow"

Yup, what he said. I would take fire over pastel every time, but I prefer both :)

Pictures for identifying practice:

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...stelclutch.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa2413281.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...telsnormal.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03871.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psb8605a76.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psd90600ba.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps97fbf008.jpg

Thank you for the pics! So basically that "line" is what to look for?

Any chance of some labels as I'm non the wiser tbh ... Thanks

yes, label of pics would help.

The "line" is not what to look for. That is not even an identifying trait of what a Pastel is. A pastel is yellow/orange in color. Even a low quality baby can't be mistaken as anything other than a low quality pastel. Fire's are a bit tricky because a low quality one can look like a normal to the untrained eye. But distinguishing a Pastel from a Fire is very easy. Continue to look up pictures and you'll learn the difference.

PASTEL:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel/

FIRE:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire/

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeEye

The "line" is not what to look for. That is not even an identifying trait of what a Pastel is. A pastel is yellow/orange in color. Even a low quality baby can't be mistaken as anything other than a low quality pastel. Fire's are a bit tricky because a low quality one can look like a normal to the untrained eye. But distinguishing a Pastel from a Fire is very easy. Continue to look up pictures and you'll learn the difference.

PASTEL:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel/

FIRE:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire/

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I was looking at WoBP initially, but still having trouble seeing the difference when I saw more yellowy fires with blushing, or browned out pastels.

Just look up more pictures and read up. You'll soon learn like we all did.