Sugars...

So I have hatched a new master plan for hobby breeding which involves a female pastel and a male sugar. I have fallen in love with pictures I have seen of pastel sugars, and it seems like the expense would be within "hobby" range rather than "second job" range. North Dakota doesn't really have a hopping ball python market, but I will eventually be moving to Michigan. I would love to buy from a local breeder, but I would also be willing to purchase online from a reputable breeder. Do you guys have any suggestions for breeders that are currently working with sugars? I like a cleaner look with a lot of white.

Caliders (calico spiders) are just incredible. Sugar is a line of calico, I'm not sure what the difference is. But the mix of the white from the spider gene and the calico makes the coloration just pop.

You'll find people who prefer calicos and people who prefer sugars. I'm a sugar girl, myself :)

Agreed, pastel sugars are amazing looking animals! Most of the breeders that sell on this site are reputable. If you jump into the Inquiries/Feedback forum here, you'll find another great resource for good sellers/buyers. I do most of my business online (or did, anyway) and only had a problem once. It's like anything else - if something's too good to be true, it usually is false.

Sammie, I completely agree! But I have a mental block when it comes to breeding an animal with a known genetic defect. I just can't wrap my head around it...

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Originally Posted by Shamri

Sammie, I completely agree! But I have a mental block when it comes to breeding an animal with a known genetic defect. I just can't wrap my head around it...

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What genetic defect?

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Originally Posted by Rob

What genetic defect?

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Rob, I think she's talking about spider wobble. I totally agree, and I hate that they can have it, but way more often than not, it doesn't really have any negative impact on the animals life.

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Originally Posted by Sammiebob

Rob, I think she's talking about spider wobble. I totally agree, and I hate that they can have it, but way more often than not, it doesn't really have any negative impact on the animals life.

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That's what I figured. I don't consider it a defect at all. They feed breed and thrive just the same as any other morph. If anything a little "wobble" gives them a little extra personality.

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Originally Posted by Rob

That's what I figured. I don't consider it a defect at all. They feed breed and thrive just the same as any other morph. If anything a little "wobble" gives them a little extra personality.

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Yeah, I know a lot of people feel the same. I admittedly have a tendency to anthropomorphize, and so I imagine that spiders and I experience "the spins" in the same way. I'm certainly not judging anyone that breeds spiders; I just know that I would be on constant guard, worrying and empathizing with my poor wittle baby wobblekins.

Check out Chad Hulker for sugar stuff.

If you want to breed pastels spend the extra money and get a super pastel. That way you won't get any normals and LLL reptiles has super pastels for a hundred dollars.