Hi guys im New at this need a little help

I have a few cool bps need help identifying what morphs the may or may not be Please !!!
#1. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...68924646ab.jpg
#2. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...1c4aa37568.jpg
#3. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...5c83f392ba.jpg

Sorry here is a few more pics in the same order
#1. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...a28b14844b.jpg http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...e9921e5eb1.jpg
#2. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...034b9d1c8b.jpg
#3. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d66c0a756f.jpg

#1 has a light color spot/arrow on top of her head and has allot of orange color and reduced pattern on the alien heads #2 has allot of of grey color and a really light color head some what of reduced pattern on the alien heads more of the back half and he has allot of pattern and speckles on his belly #3 has light color head, lots of yellow up sides and over the top has really light color flames also and the white from the belly comes up her sides far almost like on a spider has a cool stripe from behind the head

Looks like cute normals to my eyes. They can vary a lot. :)

ok thanks bit I really strongly believe the little girl op top #1 is some kind of morph maybe enchi possibly yellow belly she has almost no black spots in her alien heads never seen a norm like that. I will post a pic of her next to a few of my norms the same size as her. #2 is my breeder im 75%sure he has a het spider gene cuz I have got 2 spiders from 2 different females And #3 I really think may be a vanilla she has so much yellow and solid black the pics just don't bring it out as good in person. when you see these guys in person there is obvious color mutations compared to morms . But please I need all the input I can get I appreciate any!!

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Originally Posted by kylephillips87

ok thanks bit I really strongly believe the little girl op top #1 is some kind of morph maybe enchi possibly yellow belly she has almost no black spots in her alien heads never seen a norm like that. I will post a pic of her next to a few of my norms the same size as her. #2 is my breeder im 75%sure he has a het spider gene cuz I have got 2 spiders from 2 different females And #3 I really think may be a vanilla she has so much yellow and solid black the pics just don't bring it out as good in person. when you see these guys in person there is obvious color mutations compared to morms . But please I need all the input I can get I appreciate any!!

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Normals.

#1 is not Enchi or YB
#2 is not het. Spider. No such thing as a het. Spider. If it doesn't visually express the Spider gene then it doesn't carry.
#3 may be a Vanilla but I'm going to say normal as well. I didn't really look at the picture too well to give my input.

My best advice is to read up on genetics and how they work and understand them 100% before you start breeding. You don't want to sell someone a snake that is "het. Spider" because there is no such thing. Ball python genetics are difficult to understand at first but when you learn it, it's real easy.

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Originally Posted by kylephillips87

ok thanks bit I really strongly believe the little girl op top #1 is some kind of morph maybe enchi possibly yellow belly she has almost no black spots in her alien heads never seen a norm like that. I will post a pic of her next to a few of my norms the same size as her. #2 is my breeder im 75%sure he has a het spider gene cuz I have got 2 spiders from 2 different females And #3 I really think may be a vanilla she has so much yellow and solid black the pics just don't bring it out as good in person. when you see these guys in person there is obvious color mutations compared to morms . But please I need all the input I can get I appreciate any!!

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Originally Posted by kylephillips87

ok thanks bit I really strongly believe the little girl op top #1 is some kind of morph maybe enchi possibly yellow belly compared to several pics I have seen on many different blogs and morph lists she has almost no black spots in her alien heads never seen a norm like that. I will post a pic of her next to a few of my norms the same size as her. #2 is my breeder he is huge 75% sure he has some kind of het gene I have got 2 wierd almost spider looking morphs from 2 separate females with him #3 I really think may be a vanilla she has so much yellow and solid black the pics just don't bring it out as good in person. when you see these guys in person there is obvious color mutations compared to norms . But please I need all the input I can get I appreciate any!!

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Thanks guys!! I went and looked up the spider gene and yes i see it is a co-dom so i rephrased my last reply. Im sure #2 has some kinds of het gene because both of his sets of offspring come out weird but beautiful and do look allot like spiders. Forgive me im such a newbe amature At the bps and still trying to figure out how to work this app haha.

I would say all Normals too, though they're all beautiful. :) I have two Normals (a male and female) that both have reduced patterning like your top girl. They're both very banded as well.

Male

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1100466.jpg


Female

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1100452.jpg

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Originally Posted by kylephillips87

Thanks guys!! I went and looked up the spider gene and yes i see it is a co-dom so i rephrased my last reply. Im sure #2 has some kinds of het gene because both of his sets of offspring come out weird but beautiful and do look allot like spiders. Forgive me im such a newbe amature At the bps and still trying to figure out how to work this app haha.

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Spider is not a co-dom gene. It is a dominant gene. They look like really nice normals, though.