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  • 10-12-2004, 08:54 PM
    sk8er4life
    Blood or jungle carpet ?
    if i was to buy a 100% het male piedbald and breed it to my normal female would i come up w/any pied or just a bunch of normals?
  • 10-12-2004, 09:01 PM
    Schlyne
    I think you'd come up with with a bunch of normals, and possibly some hets.
  • 10-12-2004, 09:03 PM
    Jase
    errr, i believe you would come up with a bunch of 50% poss.het offspring
    which means, theres a 50% chance that they carry the pied trait(but that doesn't mean that half of the offspring will, its just the odds). Then by breeding the female offspring back to the 100% male, you should be able to prove out if any of the offspring are het.pied.

    I'm pretty sure i explained that properly. The only downfall is it will take a while to prove out the offspring, because you'll have to raise the female offspring till they reach breeding maturity. So it'll probably take a couple of years to accomplish the project - and hopefully in the first 100% het. male to Normal female breeding you'll get some female offspring, otherwise, you'll have to wait, and try again. Since you're 100% het is male, you'll need female offspring to breed back to them.

    i'd say try to get an answer from someone more knowledgable on here, like KLG - i'm sure she could give you alot better answer than i just did
  • 10-12-2004, 09:10 PM
    Jase
    Also, i forgot -

    In the third round of breeding: 100% het. Male x 50% Het. Female -
    It would be possible that all of the offspring appear normal, thus making them 66% het. Hopefully you could get lucky and get a dominant carrier out of the breeding, but i'd recommend trying to breed to multiple normal females in the first round, and thus upping your odds of hitting a dominant in the proving process(just due to more eggs being produced....you're giving yourself more chances)
  • 10-12-2004, 09:29 PM
    sk8er4life
    that sounds like its goin 2 take a while! well cant ijust breed 2 hets for pied and get a Pied?
  • 10-12-2004, 09:34 PM
    Jase
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sk8er4life
    that sounds like its goin 2 take a while! well cant ijust breed 2 hets for pied and get a Pied?


    well....you can breed two 100% hets together, and out of a 4 egg clutch the odds are as follows:
    25% chance for a homo. pied(visable morph)
    25% chance of normal
    50% chance for possible Het
  • 10-12-2004, 10:10 PM
    sk8er4life
    man! I want a pied
  • 10-12-2004, 11:00 PM
    sophie42204
    Try a Punnett square, that'll help you figure it out. Go here for Punnett Square 101, or for more specific snake related genetic information Check this out.
  • 12-08-2004, 08:08 PM
    Deven
    That brings up a thought, are there stud services in the python arena? That would be cool.
    for a meir one hatcling, i'd share my guy with other local pastels for sure, heck, even get
    crazy and lend him out to...ummmm...what would a pastel mix with ??? be?

    sorry, that's off topic...
  • 12-08-2004, 08:15 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deven
    That brings up a thought, are there stud services in the python arena? That would be cool.
    for a meir one hatcling, i'd share my guy with other local pastels for sure, heck, even get
    crazy and lend him out to...ummmm...what would a pastel mix with ??? be?

    sorry, that's off topic...

    Breeding loans are very common with ball pythons.

    -adam
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