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Too early for breeding?

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  • 09-23-2014, 07:31 PM
    StoneyMc
    Too early for breeding?
    I have 3 balls all in which I want to breed eventually. I have a 3yo normal, 1yo axanthic, and a 1yo pin stripe. I've heard a lot of breeders breed theirs young but want a 2nd opinion or more haha. Thanks in advance for the knowledge. (All 3 males)

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  • 09-23-2014, 07:38 PM
    KMG
    You missing the other half of the equation.;)

    You know their weights? Most go more by weight than just age.
  • 09-23-2014, 07:57 PM
    Mike41793
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    Can you post more pics of that normal? Looks awesome

    The axanthic looks like a hypo to me, tho I'm not super familiar with the gene.

    All of them look big enough to breed imo
  • 09-24-2014, 07:55 AM
    StoneyMc
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    @kmg not at the moment my scale isn't big enough but when I go to my second job I'll see if I can get that info lol thanks
  • 09-24-2014, 07:57 AM
    StoneyMc
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    @mike41793 I don't have anymore in this phone and he's currently going through another shed. As soon as he's done I'll post em or send some to you
  • 09-24-2014, 11:00 PM
    StoneyMc
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    You missing the other half of the equation.;)

    You know their weights? Most go more by weight than just age.

    I haven't been able to weigh the pinstripe yet but the axanthic weighs 570g and hasn't ate in almost 2 weeks due to shedding
  • 09-24-2014, 11:15 PM
    KMG
    First let me tell you that I am not a breeder. I thought others would chime in but I was wrong. I will give you my opinion and my experience here.

    I have seen here where males bred fine at 500 grams and a few times even smaller. The important thing is to keep a close eye on him. Males will breed to death. If you notice much weight loss I would pull him out and I also would not try to breed multiple females. I would do one and done if at all at the moment. IMHO.

    I'm just curious.
    What's the hurry that makes you want to breed now?
    Are you going to buy a female and what is the plan there?
  • 09-25-2014, 12:11 AM
    StoneyMc
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    First let me tell you that I am not a breeder. I thought others would chime in but I was wrong. I will give you my opinion and my experience here.

    I have seen here where males bred fine at 500 grams and a few times even smaller. The important thing is to keep a close eye on him. Males will breed to death. If you notice much weight loss I would pull him out and I also would not try to breed multiple females. I would do one and done if at all at the moment. IMHO.

    I'm just curious.
    What's the hurry that makes you want to breed now?
    Are you going to buy a female and what is the plan there?

    Thanks for the opinion brother. But yes I was planning on buying a female on the 12th of October at an expo coming up I have a 3yo male also he's a norm het albino I believe. I really just want to try it out for trial and error to learn the steps and to also decide whether it's something I want to get into or just collect because I use to breed pit bulls before the military and and one point had up to 32 at once I just really love the many possibilities of breeding pythons lol if that makes any sense.
  • 09-25-2014, 01:27 AM
    KMG
    I get it.

    Maybe you could find a breeder near you that could give you a walk through and give you a bit of an inside look at breeding before you make the plunge.
  • 09-25-2014, 11:24 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Too early for breeding?
    Are they old enough yes, they can breed soon as they produce sperm plug.

    Now will they breed? Not always.

    Over the past six season I had no luck with males under 600 grams, you can try but it may not work.

    You also need to closely monitor the males a smaller males and not breed them too often (which they don't need anyway) and if a male stop eating and start losing weight (and they will as breeding take a toll on them) you will need to remove the male from rotation.

    Males that are smaller but eat throughout the season are less of a worry.

    The good news is since you do not have a female and once you have her you need to add at least 3 months of quarantine before being able to pair them, this will give you time to bulk them up some more.
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