Question about Spider Ball Pythons

Since I'm looking into breeding bp, I've been looking around at different morphs to start off with.
Ive noticed that I loved everything with spider in it. But I was concerned about their "neurological problems". Does everything that has the spider gene in it have issues(bumble bees, lesser bees, spinners,ect), or is it just the "regular spider" morph?

Any help appreciated.

riley

Uhm no it is not only the normal spider but dont let that stop you! When you gonna buy a morph with spider just ask if you can hold it for a sec, you'll notice fast enough if the wobble is a real bad one or just a minor close to no wobble, if it is just a small wobble your spider wont have any trouble.

"Head Wobble" is the issue you are referring to. Its a genetic issue that all spiders and spider morphs carry.

As stated before some have it really bad, its to the point where it looks like they've had too much caffeine and are shaking and corkscrewing. On the other hand, some may have such a little case of it that it really isn't a big deal.

Mine for instance I call her my speeeecial snake, because she has a moderate case of it, when she's sitting down with her head up you can see it wobble, and when you pick her up she does corkscrew, but its not bad, and when she was eating, (stopped in May) was pounding a rat every 5-7 days.

My advice? Don't let the head wobble discourage you from getting into the beautiful morph and morph combos that spiders can make. I would find a good reputable breeder and see what they have to offer.

Hope this helps!!

Does the head wobble occer the same in bumble bees, lesser bees, spinners, ect, or is it more extreme in regular spiders? I want something that has it less noticeable since my dad would say "I'm messing too much with genetics".

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Originally Posted by Western hognose

Does the head wobble occer the same in bumble bees, lesser bees, spinners, ect, or is it more extreme in regular spiders? I want something that has it less noticeable since my dad would say "I'm messing too much with genetics".

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It happens with every morph that has the spider gene. My bumblebee is a wobbler too. You probably won't be able to choose a snake that has less of a wobble since it varies so much from snake to snake. Some have a very slight wobble while others have a much more noticeable one. Also as they age the wobble can get worse if it wasn't as bad or can get better. It just varies a lot. I love my bumblebee and his silly wobble, it gives him his goofy personality [emoji4] most wobbles are never bad enough to impair the snakes the quality of living.


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It doesn't matter how many morphs you add, the wobble is the same. Some spiders show it less than others. If you find it to be an issue, I suggest you be aware of other morphs that also have issues http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php

I used to have a spider, and all spiders, or morphs of spiders will have the wobble to some extent, and anyone who tells you different doesn't know what they are talking about, because there are those who will tell you their spiders have no wobble. It's baloney. The good thing about spiders is it doesn't affect their ability to breed, and they all eat like champs :gj:

Like others have stated all spider and spider morphs have it to an extent. With some of my spider combos I only notice it when the snake is feeding. For others it can be noticed all the time. It comes down to the individual snake in question as to the extent that the wobble will be displayed. But even with the wobble, all my spiders and spider combos eat great and those of size have bred well regardless. So don't let it discourage you from working with this great morph. :)

I was told that if I incubate at a lower temperature around 86-87 it will reduce the wobble where you will never notice it. Is that true???

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Originally Posted by Western hognose

I was told that if I incubate at a lower temperature around 86-87 it will reduce the wobble where you will never notice it. Is that true???

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Nope