Pastel Piebald x Bumblebee het Piebald clutch id help

Hi guys
I had a nice clutch this season and I would need a little help from you to confirm what your eyes can see here :)

http://i60.tinypic.com/a0l8qa.jpg

In the middle there is Super pastel and left from her is a Pastel. Both of them look kinda "different" to me.. Dont know if its just the influence of the piebald gene or there could be something else... What do you guys/girls think?

After shedding

http://i57.tinypic.com/rtgjug.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/el16j9.jpg

Also, I got a completely white snake, guess its White wedding (totaly white spied). Is there a chance I could determine if it is maybe carrying pastel gene also (other than breeding)? Maybe by the eyes ?

http://i57.tinypic.com/2r2mz5l.jpg

Sweet! That clutch is great. Lets see the parents! The pastel gene can sometimes be really busy so if the pastel parent is not it still could be the influence of the pastel gene in the bee parent. Any ringers on that super pastel? She is...wow. I would say breeding would be the only way to tell if there is pastel in the all white baby.

Thank you for the comment.
Here is the picture of the father.

http://i59.tinypic.com/xnhw6t.jpg

Mother is a classic piebald, and while she is beutiful i dont think theres anything extra going on.

I'm cofused. The title of your post is "Pastel Piebald x Bumblebee Piebald clutch I'd help". If that was your pairing, everything should be at least Piebald. Based on your pictures, at least 1 parent must only be het Piebald. To get a Super Pastel, both parents must have the Pastel, so the mother can't be just a classic Piebald. A little clarification on your pairing would really help.

Thank you for pointing this out, actually I made 2 mistakes.
The pairing was Pastel Piebald x Bumblebee het Piebald. First I somehow forgot to add het in the thread name, and then when I added the picture of the male I said the female is piebald.
My apologies, the paring in question was Pastel Piebald x Bumblebee het Piebald.

Let's see the het pied bee! Awesome babies

Edited thread title per member's request. :)

Great clutch results! Those babies are really nice!

Here are the pictures from this years breeding - it was the same - Pastel Piebald x Bumblebee het Piebald.
And the mystery continues..we got another Super Pastel and Killerbee that are a bit "weird" looking.
Any opinions?

http://i62.tinypic.com/qyea8y.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/m82tk4.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/1znwe9v.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/qzp54x.jpg

Definitely something strange is going on. Very strange.


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