Question about proving out a gene

I was wondering when people name a new gene what is the criteria? I ask because in the case of banana or coral glow they are 2 different lines (if I remember correctly) but they have 2 different names because they were imported by different people. However, it seems like when someone gets a yellow belly as an import they still call them a yellow belly. So, lets say I were to prove out a morph that I got as an import.... am I supposed to give it a new name even if it were similar (or pretty much the same) as another morph? Or is that choice just up to the one who proves it out? I understand that there can be different lines like pastel or lemon pastel but I have mixed feelings on having 3 or 4 different names for the same morph.

You'd hate dealing with leopard geckos :) Sorry I can't answer your question though.

most of the new names that people come up with turn out to be useless, and then they only cause confusion until they go away. most of these names will eventually be forgotten, and until then, they will have served no purpose other than to cause confusion.

there are no criteria. when something old gets another new name, people figure it out eventually and the name becomes useless. if something new gets a new name and it is in fact new, it sticks.

look at lesser/butter. lesser is the default name, more commonly used, and butter is the useless second name. people buy butters and immediately rename them into lessers. when some people dont get it and are so stubborn about it that, lets say, the price for butters is higher than the price for lessers, people will re-label their lessers and sell them as butters, also you will see more butter/lessers.

same with sugar/calico, mystic/phantom, banana/CG.

so the rule is that there is no rule, you can make up names for no reason, some breeders (NERD) do this routinely for marketing purposes. the question is: will others adopt the new name or will others ignore it?

in the english language, thousands of new words come up every year, and others go extinct. most of the new words go extinct quite rapidly.

It's simple, tell the truth.

If it is a new morph name it and market it as such
If it is a new line of an old morph, market it as such
If it is unproven, market as a such (dinker)

Morph names are supposed to identify genes, not be a marketing scheme....

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

It's simple, tell the truth.

If it is a new morph name it and market it as such
If it is a new line of an old morph, market it as such
If it is unproven, market as a such (dinker)

Morph names are supposed to identify genes, not be a marketing scheme....

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I agree with this...

Further - Name and market your new morph as a new morph only after you play with the genetics for a while to make sure it is genetically unique from other similar looking snakes on the market.

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Originally Posted by BlueMoonExotics

However, it seems like when someone gets a yellow belly as an import they still call them a yellow belly.

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Actually Ralph Davis originally (and probably still) called his line of yellow bellys 'goblins'. You can't really call an animal by an existing name until you've actually proven them to be compatible. After all look at the super stripes and others in that group (puma, highway) which were originally thought to be yellow bellies until they were proven NOT to be.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

look at lesser/butter. lesser is the default name, more commonly used, and butter is the useless second name. people buy butters and immediately rename them into lessers. when some people dont get it and are so stubborn about it that, lets say, the price for butters is higher than the price for lessers, people will re-label their lessers and sell them as butters, also you will see more butter/lessers.

same with sugar/calico, mystic/phantom, banana/CG.

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I'm sure this is true for some, but I keep mine labelled as whatever they were sold to me as regardless of price because some people are particular as to which "line" they are and don't want to "dirty up" their breeding plans.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Actually Ralph Davis originally (and probably still) called his line of yellow bellys 'goblins'. You can't really call an animal by an existing name until you've actually proven them to be compatible. After all look at the super stripes and others in that group (puma, highway) which were originally thought to be yellow bellies until they were proven NOT to be.

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I can see that having a new name for a similar morph would be beneficial in this case (where it's similar but acts differently). I can also understand that some want to keep the lines "clean". I guess I would probably take what several people have posted and combine it. Make a new name but just clarify that it is acting like whatever the popular name is for it.

Have you checked out the WOB app?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

It's simple, tell the truth.

If it is a new morph name it and market it as such
If it is a new line of an old morph, market it as such
If it is unproven, market as a such (dinker)

Morph names are supposed to identify genes, not be a marketing scheme....

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This is better than I could say it.

There are no "rules" so there are a lot of people just trying to make a name for themselves that they think if its something they haven't seen they need to claim a name. The problem is the names are getting STUPID and don't reflect anything about the animals gene build.

The naming of ball pythons has become a big joke. Bunch of pre-schoolers with that 'look at me" syndrome.;)