Thoughts on Stinger Bee x Spinner breeding?

Stinger bee male x Spinner female? What will be the outcome? Would it be worth it? Or should save the spinner for a different male for example pastel lesser or something with that gene? What do you guys think?

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Originally Posted by JiBster816

Stinger bee male x Spinner female? What will be the outcome? Would it be worth it? Or should save the spinner for a different male for example pastel lesser or something with that gene? What do you guys think?

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I don't recommend this pairing. Homozygous spider genes are lethal. Focus your pair on different partners - pastel lesser would be great!

Oh thats what I forgot! Spider x spider! Thanks for the reminder! thanks for the quick reply! :)

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i think you would get a drop in fertility because the homozygous spider isnt viable.

thats my opinion, there is some debate, i would avoid spider x spider because i think the fertility drop is real.

Nobody has ever proved the homozygous spider fatal - they have just never seen one.

There are no reports of extra slugs or dying eggs to explain it either. :confusd:

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Originally Posted by dr del

Nobody has ever proved the homozygous spider fatal - they have just never seen one.

There are no reports of extra slugs or dying eggs to explain it either. :confusd:

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Yes. I just stated the "simple" theory. There is a lot going on with this gene that is yet to be explained. But that is a topic thoroughly covered in many exhaustive threads already. :)

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Originally Posted by JiBster816

Stinger bee male x Spinner female? What will be the outcome? Would it be worth it? Or should save the spinner for a different male for example pastel lesser or something with that gene? What do you guys think?

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I think enchi spinner is a great combo to shoot for. They will be super reduced and the color should be awesome! good luck with that pair, let us know how it turns out.

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Originally Posted by dr del

There are no reports of extra slugs or dying eggs to explain it either. :confusd:

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there are scattered reports of this actually. and even a couple reports of white snakes hatching and dying, such as this: http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...tml#post775644

I wouldn't never say there is conclusive proof, but there is scattered evidence.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

there are scattered reports of this actually. and even a couple reports of white snakes hatching and dying, such as this: http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...tml#post775644

I wouldn't never say there is conclusive proof, but there is scattered evidence.

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Thank you. :)

I was thinking of that thread at the time but couldn't find it. :oops:

It's the lack of dead or dying eggs or even slugs that drives me nuts about this subject - there doesn't seem to be nearly enough to account for a 25% chance per egg. :confusd:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I think enchi spinner is a great combo to shoot for. They will be super reduced and the color should be awesome! good luck with that pair, let us know how it turns out.

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Yes thats why a stinger bee came to mind. I didnt want a single gene male. Maybe ill settle for it one day. My female spinner is 930grams. Almost ready!

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