Killer Bee Fire? Ripped Off?

Hey all, I was looking for some opinions on this morph/situation. I was sold this beautiful little guy a few days ago in person from a very reputable reptile breeder/dealer as a Killer Bee Fire. The sales person was very adamant about the super pastel x spider x fire genes saying that if I bred this to a normal ball I would get all pastels. He also mentioned that he will get brighter as he ages alluding to it not being a Bumble Bee. I’m worried in my naivety I got talked into thinking this snake is more than it is. It doesn’t look as light as the other Killer Bee Fires, but closer to a Bumble Bee, Fire Bee (PastelxFirexSpider), or a Killer Bee (S.PastelxSpider). But they all look relatively similar to each other. I also payed $500 which in my understanding is a lot less than what Killer Bee Fires are going for. Even on their own website they have a Killer Bee for $750 and a Super Pastel for $500. I know the only true test would be to breed him out. Something seems a little fishy, and maybe someone has an idea of what to do.


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Thats a fire bee - not a super. The black is much too jet to be a super. Just about every super pastel combo has the faded black markings, including killer fire bees.

I'd hate to say it, but I think you may have been had. Even if Thats a firebee, which I suspect it is, its a lower quality one, yet alone a killer fire bee.

That is a nice looking Fire Bee.

Not a Killer. Sorry.

i actually like the idea of having just a fire bee, to also make combos that dont have pastel. but then, OP paid for something else.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

i actually like the idea of having just a fire bee, to also make combos that dont have pastel. but then, OP paid for something else.

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I do to, that is actually my current project. But I like mine less yellow more contrast.

I'm not going to say if it is or if it isn't because i'm not knowledgeable enough to know. However, I personally think that WOBP needs to put more examples of the morphs on their page because from what I seen they show the best examples.

Did the breeder offer a genetic guarantee?

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Did the breeder offer a genetic guarantee?

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I'm not sure; I will call today.


Is $500 to much for just a fire bee? I also think it's a let down that a forerunner of ball python genetics would mislead a customer like this. Is it inappropriate to say where I got it from? I don't want to slander the company but then again I think people should know.

And thank you all for your input!

Unless my prices are off lately, I'd say 500 is fair for a fire bee. Would've been a steal for a Killer Fire Bee. As others have suggested, this is a Fire Bee.