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  • 02-23-2014, 12:45 AM
    Daveb82
    Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    I was wondering what I might get by breeding a Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave? I have tried a few morph calculators and I keep getting different stuff. Plus I was wondering if I have any chance of getting a blue eye leutistics? I know they both have Mojave in them but none of the calculators mentioned blue eye leutistics on them. Thank you so much. Trying to figure out if this combination is worth buying.

    My other option is

    female black bee het albino, female enchi pastel het albino, male Mojave, and male lemon blast.

    I already have a male albino, several female pastels, 0.1 bumble bee, 0.2 spiders, and 0.5 normals

    Can't make my mind up. Packages are same price. Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, this is my first post :)

    Thank you
  • 02-23-2014, 01:05 AM
    Slowcountry Balls
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    From that breeding you could get the following:
    -Pastel
    -Pastel Vanilla
    -Pastel Mojave
    -Pastel Vanilla Mojave
    -Pastel Super Mojave (a Pastel Blue Eye Leucistic)
    -Pastel Vanilla Super Mojave (a Pastel Vanilla Blue Eye Leucistic)
  • 02-23-2014, 01:14 AM
    Andybill
    If I had a super pastel vanilla Mojave I would breed it to something way outside the BEL complex. Too much power to waste breeding for all white snakes IMO.
  • 02-23-2014, 09:09 AM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    If I had a super pastel vanilla Mojave I would breed it to something way outside the BEL complex. Too much power to waste breeding for all white snakes IMO.

    I'm breeding a super pastel mojave to a mojave and a lesser this year. The pastel super mojave is wicked looking IMHO. And who doesn't love bels :)
  • 02-23-2014, 12:18 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Super mojave is called a BEL

    Male:
    Mojave, Super Pastel, Vanilla
    Female:
    Percent Fraction Traits
    12.5% 1/8 Super Mojave, Pastel, Vanilla
    12.5% 1/8 Super Mojave, Pastel
    25% 1/4 Vanilla, Pastave
    25% 1/4 Pastave
    12.5% 1/8 Pastel, Vanilla
    12.5% 1/8 Pastel

    however personally Id be more interested in the female enchi pastel het albino
  • 02-23-2014, 01:09 PM
    Andybill
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jason_ladouceur View Post
    I'm breeding a super pastel mojave to a mojave and a lesser this year. The pastel super mojave is wicked looking IMHO. And who doesn't love bels :)

    See I could justify a super pastel Mojave x Mojave breeding simply because you know that each super Mojave also carries pastel. A pastel super Mojave is a nice animal in terms of genetic breeding power. That makes sense. But when it comes to adding things like vanilla or fire or spider or anything on top of it I don't like guessing games and I don't like the idea of taking something that looks incredible and turning it all white. That's just me. I know the OPs snake has super pastel in it and we would know every BEL had pastel as well but after that if there's vanilla floating around that's a problem for me. Now if it were a super vanilla Mojave that's also justifiable to me because now you have Super Mojave vanillas and vanilla mojaves. White snakes look cool in their own right but don't stack up to things as visually pleasing as a super pastel vanilla Mojave so if it were me I would want to create something more visually unique with that snake than a genetic mystery.
  • 02-24-2014, 01:12 AM
    Daveb82
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    Thank you everyone for your responses. New to the bel line, didn't realize they were super Mojave.

    I ended up going with a different package. I got:

    0.1 normal
    0.1 Cinnamon
    0.1 pastel enchi het albino
    0.1 Pastave

    1.0 lemon blast
    1.0 Mojave

    Going to breed the pastave X Mojave that way I have a chance to get super Mojave and pastel super Mojave.

    Not sure what to do with the cinnamon, thinking cinnamon x bumble bee? I can figure that one out lol. I'm having a lot of trouble deciding what to do with the pastel enchi het albino?

    What is everyone opinion? Go

    Pastel enchi het albino X albino
    Or
    Pastel enchi het albino X bumble bee

    I also have

    1.0 lemon blast
    1.0 Mojave

    Thank you for any advice
  • 02-24-2014, 02:00 AM
    Andybill
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daveb82 View Post
    What is everyone opinion? Go

    Pastel enchi het albino X albino
    Or
    Pastel enchi het albino X bumble bee

    I also have

    1.0 lemon blast
    1.0 Mojave

    Thank you for any advice

    That's easy! Pastel Enchi het Albino x Albino! :gj:
  • 02-24-2014, 07:11 AM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    That's easy! Pastel Enchi het Albino x Albino! :gj:

    Yep^^^^
    Why create possible hets if you don't need to.
  • 02-24-2014, 01:00 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Super pastel vanilla Mojave x Mojave
    I would invest in an albino male with 1 or 2 more genes for the enchi pastel het, but out of the 2 choices albino is the easy pick for me.
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