I need some id help

I'm 90% sure these are pastel yellowbellies. What do you think?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/abe9ade8.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/yteda6ag.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/3esugabu.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/hapedysy.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/3u3ynu6e.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/he5eby2e.jpg

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I'd say yes to PYB02F...no to the other, but I'm no expert...:D

There's is 3 different snakes the one not labeled is a male.

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Originally Posted by toyota89

There's is 3 different snakes the one not labeled is a male.

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I'd guess top one a maybe...second one no...I'm sure we've got some YB experts here who may be able to confirm...

from what ive learned about yellowbelly identification, the pattern needs to get really chaotic near the belly.

i see that in the last one, and to a lesser degree (but its still there) in the first one. in the second one i dont see it, the pattern right next to the belly is too consistent with the side pattern. so i would say: the first one is likely to be pastel YB, the second one is just a pastel, and the third one clearly has it.

other people have to judge the other markers, i only have a bit of an eye when it comes to judging the pattern right next to the belly. i dont know much about the head stamps and how that should look like, but i think i see something on the top of the head, near the neck, in number 1 and 3. a lighter area. i dont see it in number two. also the yellow stripe that goes above the eye has a different shape near the neck in number 1 and 3.

1- yes
2 - no
3 - yes