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BP cage critique

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  • 01-30-2014, 11:31 AM
    student117
    BP cage critique
    I recently moved my BP to a new tank that I put together.
    - 200gal glass tank ($75 craigslist)
    - drift wood collected from beach then scrubbed/baked for very long time.
    - forest floor cypress mulch
    - chipped marble (white rocks)
    the temps and humidity are perfect and being measured by multiple devices constantly.
    85-90F on hot side & ~70F on cool side & 50-55RH
    There is a UTH and heat lamp on the left half.
    the grass is a temporary experiment.
    My goal for the tank was mainly a landscaping project that would look good, but i want it to be safe for my BP (Don Carlos).
    So is it safe, is it lacking any necessary amenities?
    Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated.
  • 01-30-2014, 11:38 AM
    George1994
    If you post a pic of the setup then it'll be a help.

    It seems okay, I'd just be worried about the marble catching on him or cutting him. I have only recently got into keeping BP's so this is all conjecture.
  • 01-30-2014, 11:49 AM
    Pyrate81
    Re: BP cage critique
    This sounds like a cool/fun display project. It would be more appreciated and better critiqued with some pics though. ;)

    200gal is huge for a BP. But if it's gonna be a landscaping project like you want it to be and you have a ton of coverage(large leaves and the like for him to hide under), I don't see a problem with it.

    I'd be weary of the chipped marble as well and get the coolside temp closer to the 78-82 range.
  • 01-30-2014, 12:39 PM
    ZacharyPoller
    Please post a picture
  • 01-30-2014, 02:10 PM
    student117
    totally forgot the picture
    I took the picture and put it on the computer and everything this morning, just forgot to upload hahah.
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...140129_004.jpg
  • 01-30-2014, 02:23 PM
    student117
    Re: BP cage critique
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyrate81 View Post
    This sounds like a cool/fun display project. It would be more appreciated and better critiqued with some pics though. ;)

    200gal is huge for a BP. But if it's gonna be a landscaping project like you want it to be and you have a ton of coverage(large leaves and the like for him to hide under), I don't see a problem with it.

    I'd be weary of the chipped marble as well and get the coolside temp closer to the 78-82 range.

    Now that i have posted a pic, is the level of ground cover way too little for him to feel safe?
    I was also worried about the marble, because of scratching scales. If his scales were hurt how would i know/ what to look for?
    Also is it possible for him to ingest a small rock and lead to intestinal compaction?

    also any suggestion on live plants for the tank/ toxic plants to stay away from?
    Everywhere i look people say no to live plants because the snake kills them, and go with the damn synthetic/silk ones.
    !! I HATE SYNTHETIC PLANTS !!
  • 01-30-2014, 02:29 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    You are where I wanted to be years ago. Your snake will CRUSH any live plants you put in there and that is way too huge for a ball.

    also................... Hides??
  • 01-30-2014, 02:38 PM
    George1994
    Yeah, the lack of hides is a huge issue!

    It is possible he could swallow a small rock whilst feeding, but I'd think if it was big enough he would realise and spit it out. Once again, I am new to this, so don't take what I say as the gospel truth...
  • 01-30-2014, 02:53 PM
    student117
    Re: BP cage critique
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    You are where I wanted to be years ago. Your snake will CRUSH any live plants you put in there and that is way too huge for a ball.

    also................... Hides??

    As far as the crushed plants, under the layer of marble there is a brick boxed planter bed, so that if/when the plants are crushed i can simply transplant somthing else in.
    Is the excess size of the tank detrimental to the PB, or just wasteful?
    So the hides are kind of hidden, and the hot hide is there until he out grows it.
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._002_thumb.jpg
    But the cold hide was a last minute thing and i will probably move/ get a better one that can be under the rockes and has a smaller opening.
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._004_thumb.jpg
  • 01-30-2014, 02:58 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: BP cage critique
    Ball pythons like lots and lots of cover/hiding places. With that said, if you can achieve this aesthetically, awesome. But right now your enclosure isn't suited for a ball python.

    Also, where is your UTH placed? If it's on the bottom, its completely useless because there's too much substrate so the heat will never pass through.

    I noticed you only have a temp gun. What's measuring your ambient temps? I'd invest in a acurite thermometer. The ambient temp in the tank should be around 78-82 and shouldn't dip below 75.

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