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  • 01-02-2014, 07:21 PM
    hozr
    Baby female single co-doms?
    I think I said that right. While I am searching for a new job I thought I might research a good place to get my females. Is there any good providers of pure Lessers and pure Mojave's I should be contacting?

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  • 01-02-2014, 07:36 PM
    Pythonfriend
    whats your price range? depending on your price range, you might want to leapfrog right to two-gene females.

    then, where are you living? that will help others to make suggestions that are regional to you, like good breeders or good reptile shows. im from Germany so i wont be of much help, unless you are looking for breeders in southern Germany :)
  • 01-02-2014, 10:31 PM
    hozr
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    oops...haha, I am in central California. I would love to get right in up to the hips on some really nifty morphs but alas I am newly unemployed. So at least for the moment I am only researching for a safe dealer and/or breeder. I am really interested in 3 morphs. Pure Mojave, pure Cinnamon, and pure Lesser. The Mojave's and the Cinnamon's are just my personal favorites. I would like to eventually breed a gift for my wife and her favorite morph is Lesser Mojave BEL.

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  • 01-02-2014, 10:42 PM
    B&H Reptiles
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hozr View Post
    oops...haha, I am in central California. I would love to get right in up to the hips on some really nifty morphs but alas I am newly unemployed. So at least for the moment I am only researching for a safe dealer and/or breeder. I am really interested in 3 morphs. Pure Mojave, pure Cinnamon, and pure Lesser. The Mojave's and the Cinnamon's are just my personal favorites. I would like to eventually breed a gift for my wife and her favorite morph is Lesser Mojave BEL.

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    If I am not mistaken, a Lesser x Lesser will give you a more pure/whiter BEL.
  • 01-02-2014, 10:45 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by B&H Reptiles View Post
    If I am not mistaken, a Lesser x Lesser will give you a more pure/whiter BEL.

    which has known genetic issues with the eyes, which can be avoided by avoiding super lesser, super butter, and butter lesser ;) ;)
  • 01-02-2014, 11:22 PM
    hozr
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pythonfriend View Post
    which has known genetic issues with the eyes, which can be avoided by avoiding super lesser, super butter, and butter lesser ;) ;)

    Hence the Mojave x Lesser. B-)

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  • 01-02-2014, 11:26 PM
    hozr
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    OK so I guess I do have a little dream going about breeding BELs professionally but I am willing to recognize limitations..ya know reality checks..as sad as it might make me.

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  • 01-03-2014, 02:29 AM
    B&H Reptiles
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pythonfriend View Post
    which has known genetic issues with the eyes, which can be avoided by avoiding super lesser, super butter, and butter lesser ;) ;)

    I was not aware of that, good to know. :D Back to the drawing board, very good info on this site appreciate it!
  • 01-03-2014, 02:52 AM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Baby female single co-doms?
    Quote:

    I was not aware of that, good to know. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...es/biggrin.png Back to the drawing board, very good info on this site appreciate it!
    absolutely no problem :)

    you can still make your own super lessers or super butters and hold them back, there is some chance of eye issues but for BPs the eyes are not that important. lesser mojaves are just as white and seem to be more popular these days. super mojaves are also nice, they have some grey but people still like them because mojave is a popular gene to work with. then you can add mystic or phantom for purple passion or mystic potion, thats also really nice stuff. then there are other genes like special or het russo.

    one decent goal would be to get to the point that you can breed lesser mojave to super mojave. half will be very white lesser mojave BELs, the other half will be super mojaves.

    then, on the horizon, still extremely expensive, would be bamboo, clearly the most powerful of all these genes. the super bamboo as well as the lesser bamboo are very white BELs, and just on its own bamboo is also a really powerful gene.
  • 01-03-2014, 03:04 AM
    Neal
    I can refer you to some really good breeders, mainly depending on your location. I can also tell you who to avoid depending on your location as well. What is your price range and where are you from?
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