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"Cooked" frozen fuzzy

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  • 11-27-2013, 04:36 PM
    Jughead915
    "Cooked" frozen fuzzy
    Quick question...I defrosted a fuzzy last night using hot water that was hotter than normal. It was not actually boiling, but it was heated up using a teapot and then sat for a few minutes. It was hotter than coming out of the tap. I had the fuzzy in water for approximately five minutes, then moved it to luke warm water to cool down. I know now that this was not the way to properly heat up the meal; it was my first time and someone had told me it was ok to do it. I've read that reptiles can not properly digest cooked food; my question is if this fuzzy was a bit cooked, will it hurt my BP or will he just pass it undigested somehow? He took it fine and hadn't shown any problems when I left for work earlier this morning. Thanks!
  • 11-27-2013, 10:29 PM
    Artemille
    Thawed baby size rats that are heated in water for too long tend to fall apart pretty quickly. If chunks of skin or limbs are popping off, or if the belly busts open, or if it's turned completely gray, you probably shouldn't use it.
  • 11-27-2013, 10:39 PM
    Louie
    Re: "Cooked" frozen fuzzy
    You should aware that bps cannot digest "cooked" meat. To ensure you are not cooking the feed.

    I find this method the best and been working fine.

    First, put the feed in a little plastic zipbag

    Second, thaw them in the cold water first
    (Instantly thawing frozen/very cold item will thaw unevenly or just imagine cooking frozen stuff that you eat without thawing them but throwing them right on to the hot pan)

    Third, after the feed is all thawed, change water to warm/ -ish hot water.
    (It should be mild warm or so)

    Finally, take the feed out of the bag and hairdry it for about 2 minutes.

    "Snakes don't bite. Just humans."
  • 11-28-2013, 03:09 AM
    martin82531
    For me, a day or two prior to feeding, I remove the frozen food from the freezer to the fridge, it usually defrost for 1 day or so, day of feeding they warm up to room temp for a few hours then get a quick warm up with a hair blower for about 10-15 mins before feeding.
  • 11-28-2013, 07:45 AM
    jxl
    If I have time I usually defrost in the morning on the evening of feeding by putting frozen rat from freezer to refrigerator in some plastic bag. If not warm tap water no boiling or so for a half an hour or an hour. The rest of the process remains the same.

    After day at work in the evening few hours before feeding I move the rat from fridge under the lamp of terrarium on the vent holes. I distance the lamp just right so the rat doesn't get warmer than 37-38C (~100F) and the snake can smell it's prey hour or two before feeding. That seems it also stimulates and prepares him for eating. He barely comes out of his hide and just waits for the food ;)
  • 11-28-2013, 08:57 AM
    Mr Oni
    How is it that bp's can digest bones, wood and a slew of other things but can't digest cooked meat. What am I missing here?

    I checked some stuff out and I'm seeing that they can.

    I know its a thing for picky snakes to make pinkies rubbery (slightly cooked) in the Corn world.

    Which is what i would do to help my Milk and it was fine.
  • 11-28-2013, 10:23 AM
    Crazymonkee
    They can digest it, but they don't get much out of it.... like dogs eating corn based food

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  • 11-28-2013, 11:24 AM
    Mr Oni
    I see what your saying but hundreds of thousands of dogs eat corn based food and live full healthy lives.

    Getting much out of it as to what?
    So a snake should do just as the same or is this a vague comparison?
    How much actual nutrition is lost?

    I am curious because i have seen a few times "snakes can't eat cooked food" yet like said before to feed a picky Corn/Milk/King slightly boil it.
    So with this "nutrition loss" for a baby wouldn't that baby become malnorished since all its eating is this "unnutritional" food?

    Not being a butthead, I just wanna hear the reasons/answers.
  • 11-28-2013, 11:32 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Easier way to compare... us humans eating a well balanced meal or eating McDonald's every day... yes we will live, but for how long? How many complications arise from eating junk food food everyday all day...
    same with the dog food scenario, yes they live and grow but look at the issues that can/do come with it

    Effects will show over time
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  • 11-28-2013, 11:54 AM
    satomi325
    Re: "Cooked" frozen fuzzy
    Can a reptile eat cooked meat? Yes. Should they? Probably not. The cooking process destroys a lot of essential and natural nutrients found in whole prey. All stuff needed for raw whole prey eaters. Feeding cooked meat once or twice or even several times is not going to affect anything negatively. But it will if it becomes a staple diet.


    Dogs cannot fully digest corn. Corn is just a cheap filler and used to bind kibble together. Even a cow, with a multi-chambered stomach, cannot digest corn. So its within reason that a simple stomached species like a dog cannot either.

    An animal can survive on certain diets. But surviving and thriving are completely different things.

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