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  • 11-11-2013, 01:57 PM
    dkspftw
    What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    So I'm pretty new to all this and one of my two girls is a "mimosa", or ghost/champagne morph. She's absolutely gorgeous (looks like a really clean champagne and all the black is basically purple) and I think she could produce some cool babies.

    I know what I'm breeding my other snake to, more or less, but I've really no clue what direction to take her in.

    Again, I'm a noob so I really don't know much about how the genes interact aside from the basic dominant/recessive stuff.

    So should I be looking for snakes that share the same recessive (ghost) trait and a different dominant one? Or the opposite? Or neither?

    Of course suggestions of actual morphs to breed to are cool, but I'd like to understand why they're suggested.

    Thanks so much for your time and patience!
  • 11-11-2013, 03:46 PM
    Jumbie
    I say pair her with a male enchi or lesser and if he is also hypo or het hypo then bonus. I recommended these two morphs based on personal preference. When it comes to the champagne morph I think the enchi champagne and lesser champagne look the best (don’t forget about the stunning and clean look of the pastel champagne)! Hope my input helps you deiced what direction you want to go in.
  • 11-11-2013, 06:51 PM
    dkspftw
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jumbie View Post
    I say pair her with a male enchi or lesser and if he is also hypo or het hypo then bonus. I recommended these two morphs based on personal preference. When it comes to the champagne morph I think the enchi champagne and lesser champagne look the best (don’t forget about the stunning and clean look of the pastel champagne)! Hope my input helps you deiced what direction you want to go in.

    Thanks! Yeah that's pretty similar to the advice her breeder gave. I think he said enchi as well.
  • 11-15-2013, 04:05 PM
    dkspftw
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Do I definitely want to breed it with one of the lighter color morphs as darker things would sort of destroy the champagne color/patterning?

    Other dominants I was looking at (from browsing around this site) were maybe mystic or mojave or something, although hypo-mojaves look cooler to me than hypo-mystics.

    Hypo-champagne-mystic or hypo-champagne mojave maybe?

    I think no matter what dominant morph I go with I'd like to try to find a male that is displaying the hypo/ghost trait to keep that going in the genes.
  • 11-16-2013, 08:38 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Yes, I'd definitely get something that is at least het hypo, if not homo hypo.

    I like the look of cinnamon champagnes: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...agne-cinnamon/

    Throw in a little hypo and that's a smoking animal. Or maybe a hypo pewter? Or hypo super pastel? I'd go for pretty much any hypo co-dom animal and then just pick your favorite of them. You can't really make a "wrong" choice here IMO. REally just whatever is your fancy.
  • 11-16-2013, 08:51 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    Enchi is about the only gene strong enough to add pattern to the Champagne.

    Pairing both my Champagne girls with Enchi Fire and Enchi Pastel.
  • 11-17-2013, 12:19 AM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps View Post
    homo hypo.

    This may not work,his preferences are apparently backwards
  • 11-18-2013, 02:22 PM
    dkspftw
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps View Post
    Yes, I'd definitely get something that is at least het hypo, if not homo hypo.

    I like the look of cinnamon champagnes: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...agne-cinnamon/

    Throw in a little hypo and that's a smoking animal. Or maybe a hypo pewter? Or hypo super pastel? I'd go for pretty much any hypo co-dom animal and then just pick your favorite of them. You can't really make a "wrong" choice here IMO. REally just whatever is your fancy.

    If you don't mind me asking, why co-dom and not just dom? (sorry if that's an incredibly basic/dumb question)
  • 11-18-2013, 03:29 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dkspftw View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, why co-dom and not just dom? (sorry if that's an incredibly basic/dumb question)

    The co-doms give you opportunities for supers, which means that many more morphs you can make down the road.

    And right now, the only dominant morphs I can think of off the top of my head are pinstripe and spider, both of which are pattern morphs and wouldn't do much for your champagne projects.
  • 11-18-2013, 03:57 PM
    dkspftw
    Re: What should I breed my "mimosa" with?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps View Post
    The co-doms give you opportunities for supers, which means that many more morphs you can make down the road.

    And right now, the only dominant morphs I can think of off the top of my head are pinstripe and spider, both of which are pattern morphs and wouldn't do much for your champagne projects.

    And super morphs could potentially still display even with the other dominant champagne morph genes in there?

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the basics of genetics as I'm quite new to this--I guess I need to think of each morph as a unique gene that can be added on, rather than feeling like the snake only has one color or pattern morph "slot", and adding one can overwrite the other. I realize it might look this way visually, but I've gotta stop thinking that genetics work that way, haha.
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