Good dark double gene

I am looking for a dark double gene snake that stays darker as it grows. Pewters and black pewters tend to get lighter as they age and pastaves get lighter as well. I am looking for a double gene that stays mostly black/silver and no yellows or light browns. I am looking at savannahs (cinnamon Mojave), lithiums (cinnamon butter), black pastel lessers, and black magic (black pastel Mojave) but some examples sometimes lighten and I cannot seem find any of these morphs anywhere! Any ideas that I am missing? Thanks

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Black Pastel YB :gj:

Savannahs are gorgeous. Not getting too light.

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Savannahs are gorgeous. Not getting too light.

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I have been looking for a Savannah for months with no success!

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I don't know why people don't do them more, they're a great morph.

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I'm going to because I think they're nice looking snakes, but that's a couple years in the making :)

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I imagine the best would be a black pastel GHI or a super black pastel.

I was gonna suggest a Black Pastel combo too. They're great-looking snakes, and I know a few breeders that have a plethora of them available this year.

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Black Pastel YB :gj:

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X2. My black pastel yb male is one of my favorite darker animals in my collection!


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black pastel het red axanthic = onyx
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/onyx-ball/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/monyx/

cinnamon het red axanthic = gargoyle
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-red-axanthic/

since cinnamon, black pastel, and het red axanthic are allelic and all are darkeners, these are very dark and stay very dark but still have a pattern.

then there are super cinnamon (very dark brown) and super black pastel (black) and cinnamon black pastel (halfway inbetween), they are patternless, and all these have the duckbill genetic issue to a degree.

black pastel mojave is also nice:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...pastel-mojave/

GHI is very pricy but its a very powerful darkener with a healthy super form.