Strange butter x normal clutch

Hello
I am new here, and this forum was very helpful for me in the past, so i hope it will be in the future :)

This year i paired butter to normal and got 4 strange looking morphs, can anyone identify them?

1.
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/3577/o7m8.jpg


2.
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/6886/i7b3.jpg


3.
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/8884/ox4r.jpg


4.http://imageshack.us/a/img545/3091/svs0.jpg

Any pics of the parents?
So far it looks like babies 1-3 have a blackback thing going on, #2 just looks like a regular butter that 'kind of' has a black back, so the black back 'could' be genetic.
The ringers on the tails of 3 & 4 , I'm not so sure about.

1-normal (a nice one)
2-butter
3-butter ringer
4-butter ringer

congrats and post pics of the parents plz

Sorry for delay, here are the pics of parents:
1.
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/566/3coj.jpg

2.
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/1711/d7cb.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/862/bcae.jpg

this is the normal parent comparing with other normal that i have
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4435/6avf.jpg

2 more pics:

1.
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/2411/6yv4.jpg

2.
http://imageshack.us/a/img404/7774/nf4s.jpg

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kasapin

this is the normal parent comparing with other normal that i have
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4435/6avf.jpg

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i made a mistake, these are the baby snakes #1 and #2 from the clutch

That normal may be het pied. Are any of the butter ringers males? If so I would hold him back and breed him back to mom to figure it out.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by joebad976

That normal may be het pied. Are any of the butter ringers males? If so I would hold him back and breed him back to mom to figure it out.

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I agree. No way to know though if it is the influence of the dam or the sire. What are the sexes of the babies please.

Check these out for comparison...

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-dream-butter/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/orange-dream/

The babies look like they could have OD in them, but the Mom and Pop don't.

I think your girl is het. Pied as well she has good tracks and 3 and 4 are butter het. Pied.