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Pros and Cons

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  • 09-22-2013, 06:09 PM
    cory9oh4
    Pros and Cons
    So I'm having an internal battle and need some advice.

    The snakes in question are:
    1.1 Pastel
    1.0 Lesser
    0.1 Normal

    Should I be going for the super pastel or the lesser pastel? I'm not sure which one will give me more options in the future with breeding projects. The normal would come into play to pair with the male that isn't going to the female pastel.
  • 09-22-2013, 06:12 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Depends on what projects you want to work on in the future. What are your dream combos that involve the ingredients you have now?
  • 09-22-2013, 06:26 PM
    cory9oh4
    I have a pinstripe that isn't quite ready to breed but when he is I would love to throw him in with the above ingredients to shoot for a kingpin pastel. I really don't know all the future possible morphs that would involve my current snakes. I was hoping someone could enlighten me with some possibilities and steer me in the direction of some great multi-gene morphs to plan for.
  • 09-22-2013, 06:29 PM
    molonlabe123
    My opinion
    IMHO I would go for the super to help in future breeding projects. Keep a super hold-back male or female and you know in the future breeding of that animal that every offspring it produces will be a Pastel at a minimum. Then again if your future breeding calls for a Pastel Lesser than thats the route you should take. Just my two cents.
  • 09-22-2013, 06:31 PM
    decensored
    I usually go with the varying genes. I'd rather have the pastel lesser than the BEL.
  • 09-22-2013, 06:37 PM
    cory9oh4
    Re: Pros and Cons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by decensored View Post
    I usually go with the varying genes. I'd rather have the pastel lesser than the BEL.

    For that BEL wouldn't I just have to cross one lesser gene offspring back to the 1.0 Lesser? Is that acceptable or inbreeding?
  • 09-22-2013, 06:45 PM
    decensored
    Re: Pros and Cons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cory9oh4 View Post
    For that BEL wouldn't I just have to cross one lesser gene offspring back to the 1.0 Lesser? Is that acceptable or inbreeding?

    That's totally acceptable. In-breeding isn't an issue with ball pythons like it is for other animals. :)
  • 09-22-2013, 07:11 PM
    Meltdown Morphs
    If I was working with your animals I would go for the pastel lesser. IF you produce a male pastel lesser you could still shoot for super pastels, or super pastel lessers when you raise that male up and pair him back to your pastel female.
    You could also pair that lesser up to the female normal, tho that pretty much phases out the need for your single gene pastel male.

    If you produced a female pastel lesser you could hold onto her and grow her up for your pinstripe and shoot for pastel kingpins in the future. Or if you still wanted a super pastel you could probably easily trade a pastel lesser for super pastel. Whenever your pinstripe does reach size you could get lemonblasts by doing pinstripe x pastel.
    Generally having the superform of any codom gene is a plus cause it eliminates normals, but unless your really wanting to produce super pastels then that single gene pastel male might end up phased out of breeding plans unless you get lucky with a dual sired clutch and get super pastels and pastel lessers from the same clutch.
  • 09-22-2013, 07:16 PM
    cory9oh4
    Thanks for everyone's input so far. You're all certainly helping me!
  • 09-22-2013, 07:55 PM
    don15681
    Re: Pros and Cons
    I would be going for lesser pastels, if you breed your pastel to the pastel you can get super pastels. but the rest will only be pastels and normal. if you breed the lesser to the pastel. you can get lesser pastels, pastels, lessers and yes some normals. but know you have a chance to produce a female lesser and female pastels to hold back with a lesser pastel. the other way you would only have a chance for more pastel females with the chance of a super pastel. you could possible add more, different females to your collection this way is what I'm trying to tell you.
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